HuntingNut
HuntingNut
   Login or Register
HomeCommunity ForumsPhoto AlbumsRegister
     
 

User Info

Welcome Anonymous


Membership:
Latest: MDostie49
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 12704

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 53
BOT: 3
Total: 56
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Forums
02: Forums
03: Forums
04: Forums
05: Forums
06: Forums
07: Forums
08: Forums
09: Forums
10: Forums
11: Your Account
12: Forums
13: Forums
14: Forums
15: Forums
16: Forums
17: Forums
18: Forums
19: Forums
20: Forums
21: Forums
22: Forums
23: Forums
24: Home
25: Forums
26: Your Account
27: Forums
28: Forums
29: Forums
30: Forums
31: Forums
32: Forums
33: Forums
34: Forums
35: Forums
36: Forums
37: Forums
38: Forums
39: Forums
40: Forums
41: Forums
42: Forums
43: Photo Albums
44: Forums
45: Forums
46: Forums
47: Forums
48: Photo Albums
49: Photo Albums
50: Forums
51: Forums
52: Photo Albums
53: Forums
  BOT:
01: Forums
02: Forums
03: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
 

Coppermine Stats
Photo Albums
 Albums: 305
 Pictures: 2371
  · Views: 537427
  · Votes: 1312
  · Comments: 86
 

Support our Advertisers

Home made targets....
Discussions related to Guns and Firearms
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
stovepipe
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Sep 25, 2008
Posts: 4877
Location: Pine, Az.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:10 am    Post subject: Re: Home made targets.... Reply with quote

Bushmaster wrote:
I hate to be a critic on such pretty targets (nice and shinny. Too bad you plan to smudge them all up with lead.), but...Shouldn't the hole for the "drag chain" be on the bottom? It would seem to me if you attach a chain there it might upset the target, especially when hit.

Well I guess you'll have to hit them first. Right? Laughing Razz

You, hate to be a critic...rrrrright. Laughing

I put a long heavy drag chain on the small one from the middle hole and it killed the swing in the tests I was doing. It's an option in case the 30cals try and wrap it or knock the whole thing out into the desert. The bigger ones past 200y wont need anything.

Hit them first...you a funny guy...esp since your range is a whopping 40 feet. Shocked

Laughing

Thanks Elvis!
Back to top
View user's profile
slimjim
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 16, 2009
Posts: 7871
Location: Fort Worth TX

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Home made targets.... Reply with quote

stovepipe wrote:
your range is a whopping 40 feet.

one wouldn't want to get the heart going to fast when checking targets. A fast heart beat makes shot placement harder and the reel-to-reel isn't there to provide stress relief.

_________________
"To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." - Theodore Roosevelt

"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
Back to top
View user's profile
PaulS
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Feb 18, 2006
Posts: 3718
Location: South-Eastern Washington - the State

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Home made targets.... Reply with quote

Um, 3/8" steel is likely to have holes in it from rifle fire.
I used 5/16" on my pistol gongs and I put holes in them with the 357 Maximum.
The rifle gongs I made were from 1/2" steel and it was badly deformed from hits at 100 yards.

_________________
Paul
__________________
Speer, Lyman, Hodgdon, Sierra, and Hornady = reliable loading data
So and So's pages on the internet = NOT reliable loading data
Always check data against manuals
NEVER exceed maximum listed loads
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
slimjim
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 16, 2009
Posts: 7871
Location: Fort Worth TX

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Home made targets.... Reply with quote

the type of steel used makes a big difference. what type steel did you use, PaulS?

_________________
"To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." - Theodore Roosevelt

"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
Back to top
View user's profile
Bushmaster
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jun 12, 2005
Posts: 10686
Location: Ava, Missouri

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Home made targets.... Reply with quote

Didn't I mention the 200 yard range across the road. I could make it longer, but my neighbor won't let me cut his trees down.

_________________
I have one nerve left and yer standin' on it...

DEMOCRACY Two wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for lunch...
LIBERTY A well armed sheep contesting the outcome of the vote...
Back to top
View user's profile
Elvis
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 7825
Location: south island New Zealand

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:25 am    Post subject: Re: Home made targets.... Reply with quote

Bushmaster wrote:
Didn't I mention the 200 yard range across the road. I could make it longer, but my neighbor won't let me cut his trees down.
a few stray rounds from the ol 30/30 and they should fall over nicely Very Happy Very Happy

_________________
You shot it You pluck it !
Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers!
Back to top
View user's profile
stovepipe
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Sep 25, 2008
Posts: 4877
Location: Pine, Az.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:15 am    Post subject: Re: Home made targets.... Reply with quote

PaulS wrote:
Um, 3/8" steel is likely to have holes in it from rifle fire.
I used 5/16" on my pistol gongs and I put holes in them with the 357 Maximum.
The rifle gongs I made were from 1/2" steel and it was badly deformed from hits at 100 yards.

Agreed- if you use mild steel.

I did a lot of reading on this as I was tired of dragging home junk to replace it all again...My plates are 3/8" AR500. Good luck putting a hole in that with hunting or target loads. I've seen these shot with 50BMG ball and it destroys the target stand but the little plate is only bent. No hole. Guy flattened it out with a hammer and kept shooing with .30 cals. Still no holes. The brinell is 475-500. Pretty hard stuff.
Back to top
View user's profile
PaulS
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Feb 18, 2006
Posts: 3718
Location: South-Eastern Washington - the State

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Home made targets.... Reply with quote

Well I was using A-514 (T1) steel for my targets not mild steel but it is a higher carbon alloy than your AR500.
I put three 180 grain flat nose Speer .358 diameter bullets through it at a muzzle velocity of only 1800 + a bit. The gong didn't even swing - I thought I had missed - three times. But when we walked the 40 yards to the target there were three holes in a tigh cloverleaf pattern dead center. That was the last time I used my 357 Maximum on the pistol targets.

_________________
Paul
__________________
Speer, Lyman, Hodgdon, Sierra, and Hornady = reliable loading data
So and So's pages on the internet = NOT reliable loading data
Always check data against manuals
NEVER exceed maximum listed loads
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Elvis
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 7825
Location: south island New Zealand

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:16 am    Post subject: Re: Home made targets.... Reply with quote

time will tell Very Happy . I had some mild steel discs that I hung on a wire to ping with the .22 and that bent the thinner one nicely 3-4mm if I remember rightly. the smaller disk didnt dent as I guess it moved more and let the energy go??
we look forward to seeing the longevity of your creation Mr Stovie Very Happy Very Happy
I for one have faith in ya Very Happy

_________________
You shot it You pluck it !
Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers!
Back to top
View user's profile
Aloysius
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Nov 03, 2009
Posts: 2174
Location: B., Belgium

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:55 am    Post subject: Re: Home made targets.... Reply with quote

better not squeesh to hard now for Stovey is not in the best position: when he ruins the target real quick, it could also mean he's tough enough to use a serious caliber rifle and is able to hit it. That approach is totally different from saying he has been using "zjakamakka-steel"...
On the other hand when these targets last long time, it can mean it's good steel, or he's using an airrifle or he's using a decent rifle but no hits...
Shouldn't we write a testprocedure?

And Elvis is also right: when it stands still as a rock, it means it has to adsorb all the energy. When it swings and transfers part of the energy in kinetic energy... isn't that the difference between football and martial arts? I've never seen tiny Chineses play football...


but I have to admit that when Stovey makes something, be it a new livingroom, a reloadingbench, a shotshelldeflector or a target, the finish is always that nice that I would hesitate to use it. As always it's going to hurt the first time, I think...
Back to top
View user's profile
stovepipe
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Sep 25, 2008
Posts: 4877
Location: Pine, Az.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:51 am    Post subject: Re: Home made targets.... Reply with quote

Paul- through hardened 3/8" AR500 steel @ 100y is not going to get holed or even cratered with the 300WM with hunting/target loads under 3100fps. My 200gr SMK is flying @ around 2700 on a good day. Google these targets you'll see, it's impressive. @ 200y+ the bullet poofs and the gong has a smudge. This and the 550 steel is used in all sorts of amoring-up. AR500 pistol stuff mandates 50y min and 1500 fps max if I'm correct so it's no wonder you were blowing though- 357 Max aint no slouch!

Elvis and Aloy- thanks for the nice words!

Quote::
On the other hand when these targets last long time, it can mean it's good steel, or he's using an airrifle or he's using a decent rifle but no hits...

Shocked

And Mr. Alloyman Razz ? With the 308 Howa and the 300WM I can call everything to minute of grapefruit with 100% certainty to 300y, 60% certainty @ 400y with a 10mph full value wind. Those are my limits- not too impressive but, I'm honest about it. After that I need a spotter to call the splash when I miss etc. as I don't shoot much anymore.

And as said nothing is for sure until tested so...we shall see soon with fingers crossed.
Back to top
View user's profile
Aloysius
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Nov 03, 2009
Posts: 2174
Location: B., Belgium

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:34 am    Post subject: Re: Home made targets.... Reply with quote

Always good to know your limits, for me normally that's about 200-250 m. Further means on the shooting range very long walks and at hunting gessing about the quality of the roedeer.
But maybe soon I also will try at a longer distance. I got myself a nice Sabatti in .222 Rem a few weeks ago and I topped it with 10-40x optics and from what it showed on the range till now, those long-distance-crows are coming in reach...

but when side winds begin to help the targets, I don't talk about 50-60%, unless I'm allowed to shoot twice. We simply don't get enough chances on long distance here in our country and without practical experiences one stays a poor shot. Practise makes the master perfect.
Back to top
View user's profile
stovepipe
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Sep 25, 2008
Posts: 4877
Location: Pine, Az.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:52 am    Post subject: Re: Home made targets.... Reply with quote

I agree. Shooting is a perishable skill. And I'm honest about my abilities. I know some that aint. There seems to be a fudge factor of around 100-150y with some. I look at it this way- if I can connect with a 6" round target @300y 5/5 times with a light breeze, but start missing after that...I go back to the nearest 100y mark. Start over. It comes down to dope and hold for me. My hold aint that great. My dope after 400y is sketchy at best. Out to 300y I own it all. Not long range but that's as far as I can call myself w/o help. I can hit 12x24" plates @ 600y with a spotter to check splash and call but it takes a shot or two to dope it. I've shot with guys that have the dope and a good hold and can whack 10" gongs at that range like it's nothing.
Back to top
View user's profile
MacD
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Apr 08, 2011
Posts: 1052
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:16 am    Post subject: Re: Home made targets.... Reply with quote

I enjoyed this post as making some gongs is one of my future projects.

Our local range max is 200 meters. I have been looking around for a good 400 meter flat piece of open land with a good butt to start getting used to the long range shooting. Many years ago when I was a militia member we used to do a run up from 1000 yards shooting 10 rounds at each 200 yard interval. Target were typical actual size military figure. Rifles were FNC1 7.62 NATO. Any hit beyond 400, for me, was lucky with the aperture sights.

_________________
La a'Blair s'math n Cairdean
(Friends are good on the day of battle)
Back to top
View user's profile
stovepipe
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Sep 25, 2008
Posts: 4877
Location: Pine, Az.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:32 am    Post subject: Re: Home made targets.... Reply with quote

Oh God yes... I need glass for everything. I have a Merrit device for open sights but- it's blurry even with that so 200y is really pushing it there.
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » Gun & Firearm Discussions
Page 3 of 5
All times are GMT - 7 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Advertisements
 


Valid CSS! Valid HTML 4.01!
Click to check if this page is realy HTML 4.01 compliant for speed :)

All logos and trademarks in this site are property of HuntingNut.com.
The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2011 by HuntingNut.com
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy

.: Upgraded to DragonFly 9.2 by Dizfunkshunal :.