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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Zimmerman Reply with quote

Oh Gee, what a SURPRISE!Recognize this guy? Do you know who this is? It is Trayvon Martin! At 17 yrs of age.



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Zimmerman Reply with quote

I think that photo is some "rap singer", not Martin.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Zimmerman Reply with quote

We have a Maori Party in New Zealand, also an idiot called Hone Harawira who is a politician (Mana Party) and referred to most New Zealanders as " white Mother....ers, SO recently some bright spark started a facebook page called "the Pakeha Party" as a back lash against the Maori Party and Mana party and guess what, its take off and is likely to become a political entity.
Hey we're all people, well most of us and we should be able to live in relative peace (excepting Radicals of all persuasions).

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:59 am    Post subject: Re: Zimmerman Reply with quote

well Im a 27th generation x bred KIWI and fill the sensus forms in as such and have done so since highschool. I can trace my ancestory back to full blooded maori, scotsman, etc etc etc etc
when I spend time in the sun I go pink then red then brown then darker brown.
when I get a fright I go white
get sick and go green
cold I go blue
embarrassed bright red
but dont judge me by my skin colour please judge me by my actions and conduct. if I come at you in an agressive manner feel free to punch me on the nose...If your life is in danger shoot me down like a rabid dog.
If I am freindly well then lead me off to the nearest pup and buy me a beer Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:07 am    Post subject: Re: Zimmerman Reply with quote

Sounds like a sensible outlook on life Elvis. Well said mate.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Zimmerman Reply with quote

A fictional character but a very accurate statement:

"The thing is, you cannot judge a race. Any man who judges by the group is a pea-wit. You take men one at a time." Buster Kilrain in "The Killer Angels"

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Zimmerman Reply with quote

Why is the FEDS getting involved (Again) in this state of Florida case?

www.chicagotribune.com...4143.story

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Zimmerman Reply with quote

Totally out of context Holder states that this was an unnecessary shooting. I say it was out of context because at the NAACP convention it was not acknowledged that Martin beat Zimmerman. Again he was just a little boy going to get snacks and came back dead. He wants to take a look at the hold your ground issue as being a license to abuse. The reason hold your ground is not an issue (to me) is because you can't out-run a bullet for one thing but another issue is (as in this case) when you're getting your head pounded into the sidewalk, what other choice do you have? Should we now aim for the foot? so they can't run after you? Zimmerman avoided being beat to death and is now being beat to death by the NAACP. If racism is present, it's in the manner in which Zimmerman has been targeted from the onset. They wished he was white, but he isn't so they invented that he is white/Mexican, what the hell do they call our half white president?

This is so out of hand and so partisan and so racist. I can't wait to hear the Obama reaction. He's already signed this guy's life away by prosecution before conviction. Al Sharpton, the NAACP and Holder have ballooned this non-issue into a race dividing, gun controlling pile of stench. Zimmerman has already gone through the FBI investigation of profiling and racism and come out clean and now they're at least posturing to do it again. The Feds may be saying this, just to appease the masses, but to me it's adding fuel to the already burned down house. Let's see if it'll burn again?

They'll investigate to see if there is an issue to resolve but will find nothing and this will allow them some time to figure out something else. Like how to save face in light of the stupid moves they've already got under their belts. Then they'll hope we all just quit talkin about it and forget it ever happened.....ya know like not prosecuting Holder for gun running in Mexico and a few other blemishes.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Zimmerman Reply with quote

Opening another investigation is a lose-lose proposition for the Feds. Either the original investigation by the FBI was good, so another is a waste of resources OR the first investigation was BAD, so they screwed up royally (again).

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Zimmerman Reply with quote

Martin's skittles and soft drink can be combined with cough syrup to make a popular drug fix that can cause psychotic breaks, paranoia and loss of judgement along with permanent brain damage. The autopsy revealed damage consistent with the use of this drug. I never heard that in evidence.
I wonder what else was not revealed to the defense and jury.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Zimmerman Reply with quote

PaulS, so you have references for this combination and autopsy?

This is unbelievable! Calling a Hispanic White, NBC editing 911 taps, cell phone evidence not submitted that shows his activites and possible drug use that evening, 13-year old pictures of a little boy instead of current, no mention of gang activity or criminal record.

What do they expect a person to do when they are getting their head beat into the concrete?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Zimmerman Reply with quote

None of the evidence against Martin was applicable to the trial.
The only evidence that would have been permissible would have been evidence that showed Zimmerman was targeting Martin because of his race. That was prove not to be true, and evidence that showed Zimmerman was not in fear of his life - that was shown to be false by all the evidence entered.

The proper verdict was rendered as per the evidence shown. Whether Martin had been a career criminal had nothing to do with it. As soon as he assaulted Zimmerman he committed a felony and in so doing threatened the life of Zimmerman. Zimmerman had every right to shoot in self defense.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:10 am    Post subject: Re: Zimmerman Reply with quote

The US Gov't has now set-up a hot line for individuals to call in an report any experience they have had with Zimmerman that indicates he is racially biazed. This is another example of our government out stepping its responsibility. How do you fight back and stop this?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:24 am    Post subject: Re: Zimmerman Reply with quote

Change the government...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:13 am    Post subject: Re: Zimmerman Reply with quote

Bushmaster wrote:
Change the government...

I'm concerned that the uneducated voters have become so numerous that this can no longer be done.

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