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Gil Martin Super Member
Joined: Jan 28, 2005 Posts: 1837 Location: Schnecksville, PA
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:49 pm Post subject: Using the right magazine |
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A fellow shooter stopped by today and needed help with a problem with the magazine he purchased for his M1A. The magazine would not lock into the magazine well. It never would because it was a 20 round magazine for an FN/FAL or an L1A1. It worked just fine in my L1A1. This guy is a regular shooter at our monthly rifle matches and should know the right magazine. Fortunately the fellow has other magazines that will fit his M1A.
On the bright side, he gave me the magazine for my trouble. All the best...
Gil
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dhc4ever Super Member
Joined: May 26, 2011 Posts: 2944 Location: Ipswich, Queensland Australia
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:02 pm Post subject: Re: Using the right magazine |
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I love the L1A1.
Pity the govt doesnt trust anyone here to have one, without jumping through more hoops than a 3 ring circus.
Good score with the mag.
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MacD Super Member
Joined: Apr 08, 2011 Posts: 1052 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: Using the right magazine |
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Yup it is a prohibited weapon here also and only those grandfathered in can own one. A case of looks rather than function as there are more powerful semi's around that are not even restricted.
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Aloysius Super Member
Joined: Nov 03, 2009 Posts: 2438 Location: B., Belgium
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Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:21 am Post subject: Re: Using the right magazine |
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Just for your info: there is a diffirence between a magazine for the FN-FAL and the L1A1 at the hook that secures the magazine to the rifle. The hook of a L1A1 magazine is much wider. So the FAL-magazine will fit in the L1A1 but not the other way around (without using a file).
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Gil Martin Super Member
Joined: Jan 28, 2005 Posts: 1837 Location: Schnecksville, PA
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:04 am Post subject: Re: Using the right magazine |
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Aloysius,
You are correct. The FN/FAL magazine will work in the L1A1, but not the other way around. Take care. All the best...
Gil
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Aloysius Super Member
Joined: Nov 03, 2009 Posts: 2438 Location: B., Belgium
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: Using the right magazine |
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I have my clear moments
and for your info: same thing with the curved magazine of the BREN. That will also fit the L1A1 but not the FN-FAL, unless you use a file or a grinder on the hook.
And yes, it's nice to dress your FAL up on Sundays with a curved magazine
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pete4d Super Member
Joined: Nov 27, 2011 Posts: 957 Location: Dixie , Alabama , & Louisiana
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Vince Site Admin
Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 15704 Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: Using the right magazine |
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Pete...the BREN was a WWII British and allies machine gun mate...a magnificent weapon that I consider to be a bit of a failure as a machine gun simply because it was too accurate. During WWII they were chambered for the .303 round and had a curved 30 round magazine. Down the track a ways the BREN was chambered in 7.62mm NATO with a straight magazine again of 30 rounds.
I am sure you would be able to pick up a curved 30 round mag through the collectors network mate.
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Elvis Super Member
Joined: Jul 27, 2008 Posts: 9239 Location: south island New Zealand
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:00 am Post subject: Re: Using the right magazine |
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magnificent sums the humble bren up well.
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Aloysius Super Member
Joined: Nov 03, 2009 Posts: 2438 Location: B., Belgium
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:45 am Post subject: Re: Using the right magazine |
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...or how a simple "wrong magazine" turns into some interesting know-abouts
I'll try to make some pictures indicating the differences.
Pete, do you also have the feeling that the AR's and FNC's are just for sissies?
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Vince Site Admin
Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 15704 Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:58 am Post subject: Re: Using the right magazine |
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Ah, something just came to mind Pete...the BREN magazines will more than likely not be of any use fitted to a rifle as the magazine spring was designed for a top feed firearm and are not as strong as a rifle magazine spring that feed from "under" the action.
When I was in the Army we had to be careful not to mix the straight BREN magazines with those used on the SLR L1A1 or the L2A1 Automatic Rifle (pic below) as they would not work. The L2A1 pictured below is fitted with a blank firing attachment (the yellow fitting on the muzzle) so that blank rounds would cycle the action.
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Aloysius Super Member
Joined: Nov 03, 2009 Posts: 2438 Location: B., Belgium
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:27 am Post subject: Re: Using the right magazine |
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Vince, I don't feel that much difference in springtension between such a BREN-mag and another 30 round mag for the FAL. And in my opinion these springs in a 30 round mag are weaker than the 20 round mag. Maybe I should dismantle some and measure the springs.
By the way: my curved 30 round mag has following inscriptions: "MAGAZINE 7.62 MM L4A1" on top of "9600089 D 59"
And I never looked it up if L4A1 is an indication for a BREN, someone told me so in the past and so I kept the magazin original and did not adapt it for my FAL.
edit: but I read l4a4 in the title of your picture, so it's coming close
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Vince Site Admin
Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 15704 Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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Aloysius Super Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:19 am Post subject: Re: Using the right magazine |
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And what was a L4A1 as indicated on my magazine?
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Vince Site Admin
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