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longwalker Member
Joined: Apr 12, 2005 Posts: 201 Location: Bethel, AK
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:40 am Post subject: Gun cleaning |
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I have experimented with just about everything to clean guns, and still have not found a good subsitute to stripping them down and using conventional cleaners.
My pistols which get used much more than my rifles see 8 - 9 thousand of rounds every year. I tried the aerosol cleaners and found I just used up more cleaner more often. In the end all I did was move the dirt from one place to an other.
For over a year now I have used Simple Green cleaner. I came to this by an other shooter who recomended I try it. Cleaning chemical cost went way down. My fingers don't dry out and the house doesn't smell like a brake shop. By using the simple green on all parts including the barrel I get all the powder residue and old lubricant off all the parts. The barrel will need copper or lead cleaning solution but not as much as before.
Before assembly I touch all the the small parts with gun oil and lightly grease the slides and frames. Then reassemble.
I have not experimented with long term soaking. or long term exposure to simple green. Just use it and wipe it clean.
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11393 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:04 am Post subject: Re: Gun cleaning |
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Longwalker...Did you ever tried any of the gun dips?
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longwalker Member
Joined: Apr 12, 2005 Posts: 201 Location: Bethel, AK
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:01 pm Post subject: Re: Gun cleaning |
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I don't know what a gun dip is?
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11393 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:08 pm Post subject: Re: Gun cleaning |
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Someone, and I can't find it, made a bucket of solvent that you removed the grips and dunked the whole gun, minus the grips, in it and the gun came out clean. Who the he++ made that stuff...Must be CRS or a brain fa++.
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shootist Member
Joined: Dec 30, 2005 Posts: 73 Location: Lackawaxen,PA
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:56 pm Post subject: Re: Gun cleaning |
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Hi there Bushmaster...I think you are talking about " Bill Laughridge's Dunk-Kit "....10/4?
I use Mineral spirits/ Kroil/ Liquid Wrench/Dextron ATF/Marvel Mystery oil.
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shootist Member
Joined: Dec 30, 2005 Posts: 73 Location: Lackawaxen,PA
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: Gun cleaning |
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Hi there Bushmaster...I think you are talking about " Bill Laughridge's Dunk-Kit "....10/4?
I use Mineral spirits/ Kroil/ Liquid Wrench/Dextron ATF/Marvel Mystery oil.
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11393 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:02 pm Post subject: Re: Gun cleaning |
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Yup...That's one. There was onother one if memory serves me...
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GroovyJack Member
Joined: May 21, 2005 Posts: 621 Location: Bama
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Gun cleaning |
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There is another one , but I cant think of it either ..
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Dimitri Super Member
Joined: Nov 25, 2005 Posts: 5944
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: Gun cleaning |
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There is this artical about that if you'd like to read it
www.findarticles.com/p...i_85472065
Bill Laughridge's Website showing the Dunk-It kits for pistols
shop.cylinder-slide.co...=cat&ref=4
Dimitri
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515034s10ring Super Member
Joined: Sep 08, 2005 Posts: 1153 Location: Working my way back up and around
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Hutch Rookie Member
Joined: Apr 02, 2006 Posts: 11
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:38 pm Post subject: Re: Gun cleaning |
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I think the stuff you're thinking of is "Ed's Red"...
The formula is:
1 part Dexron II, IIe or III ATF, GM Spec. D-20265 or later.
1 part Kerosene - deodorized, K1
1 part Aliphatic Mineral Spirits, Fed. Spec. TT-T-2981F, CAS #64741-49-9,
or substitute "Stoddard Solvent", CAS #8052-41-3, or equivalent, (aka "Varsol")
1 part Acetone, CAS #67-64-1.
(Optional up to 1 lb. of Lanolin, Anhydrous, USP per gallon,
OK to substitute Lanolin, Modified, Topical Lubricant, from the drug store)
The lanolin is not required if a separate lubricant/rust preventative is used. It's good stuff. I use it to "dunk" mil surp rifles all of the time....
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Dimitri Super Member
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popgun Member
Joined: Jan 26, 2005 Posts: 735 Location: Mitchell, GA, U.S.A. (2007 pop. 191)
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:26 am Post subject: Re: Gun cleaning |
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The Acetone in Ed's Red will evaporate quickly from the solution. I recomend mixing up a batch of Ed's Red without the Acetone then mix a small batch with acetone that you can use up in a short time.
I have been using Ed's Red for several years now and found that it is a good every day cleaner. Not a copper remover but a great barrel crud removal solvent. I use Butch's Bore Shine for copper removal. I don't use ER for long term storage so the lanolyn is not required.
I have used Simple Green before but like the others I like the brake shop smell
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11393 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:27 am Post subject: Re: Gun cleaning |
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Interesting, but I still clean all my guns the "Old Fashioned Way" using Hoppe's 9 copper solvent and finish it up with Hoppe's 9 oil/Weatherguard. And the liberal use of brushes and patches (old "T" shirt cut to size). When I completely disassemble a firearm for extensive cleaning I use an automotive cleaning solvent/lanolin. Oil and re-assemble. This has served me very well over the last 50 years. I started using Hoppe's products at the very beginning and haven't looked back. The only change is the "Weatherguard"...
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george20042007 Super Member
Joined: Jan 27, 2006 Posts: 568 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:47 am Post subject: Re: Gun cleaning |
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I use a number of different gun cleaning solvents that are readily available but was impressed with kroil like shootist mentions.
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