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GroovyJack Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: For those of you that want to hunt Africa...GRAPHIC MATERIAL |
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BTW Dimitri check out Butch Searcy website , you can have a PH model double for only $10,500 or so ..
Jack
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: For those of you that want to hunt Africa...GRAPHIC MATERIAL |
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Jack!
Thats interesting I will check it out
I only saw doubles for like 5+ times the cost
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GroovyJack Member
Joined: May 21, 2005 Posts: 621 Location: Bama
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: For those of you that want to hunt Africa...GRAPHIC MATERIAL |
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I bought my Kreighoff in 1985 for $9800 , sold it for about $1000 more than I paid for it in 1987 , bought the Merkel with that money , and sold it about five years ago for $2500 more than I paid for it ..
Most European ( not English ) and American doubles .500 caliber and under , if you dont care for all the fancy engraving and such , can be had at reasonable prices compared to English doubles ..
The Searcy is the most accurate of them all , I will never own another Kreighoff ..
Jack
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:02 pm Post subject: Re: For those of you that want to hunt Africa...GRAPHIC MATERIAL |
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Thanks for the tips Jack!
Ones I'm out of college and building my collection I'm going to add one of these
Dimitri
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sniper Super Member
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4570Ranger Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:01 pm Post subject: Re: For those of you that want to hunt Africa...GRAPHIC MATE |
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dick1208 Rookie Member
Joined: Apr 12, 2007 Posts: 7 Location: South Africa
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:30 am Post subject: Re: For those of you that want to hunt Africa...GRAPHIC MATERIAL |
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sorry guys 45.70 wont make it
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GroovyJack Member
Joined: May 21, 2005 Posts: 621 Location: Bama
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:39 am Post subject: Re: For those of you that want to hunt Africa...GRAPHIC MATE |
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dick1208 , ahh someone who agrees with me , finally , seems the current rage in the states now is Africa and DG with a 45/70 ...
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SwampFox Super Member
Joined: Jul 15, 2005 Posts: 1040 Location: Destin, Florida
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:35 am Post subject: Re: For those of you that want to hunt Africa...GRAPHIC MATE |
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The 45-70 is indeed a lightweight when compared to the 600 or 700 NE. However, there are 45-70s and there are 45-70s. The 45-70 in a Mdl 98 Mauser action is a thing of real beauty, a thumper first class. But then, GJ, we got the "Lott a gun" to smoke em, don't we?
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gelandangan Super Member
Joined: May 07, 2006 Posts: 6398 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: For those of you that want to hunt Africa...GRAPHIC MATERIAL |
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Something like knifing a 100kg pig.. the difference is you got only 2 shots where a knife could be used again and again.
Dimitri, I think there is a russian double that goes for about $1000 they are in .308 if I am not wrong..
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: For those of you that want to hunt Africa...GRAPHIC MATERIAL |
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They do import Russian rifles yes. But when I do manage to save up enough for one, its going to be one for Dangerous Game and the 308Win wont cut it.
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GroovyJack Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: For those of you that want to hunt Africa...GRAPHIC MATE |
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HeHe Swampie , yep my 45/70 sports a 2.8" case ..
I seen buffalo and even a few elephants in Destin myself
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: For those of you that want to hunt Africa...GRAPHIC MATERIAL |
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I read an article in "Rifle" magazine, or one of the others from that company, some time back where the author killed two Cape Buffalo with one shot from a Marlin .45-70. I think they were Corbon loads. Bullet penetrated completely through a bull and killed a cow behind it. In the Marlin the .45-70 can be loaded to the level of the old .450 Black Powder Express, which was popular in Africa early on. I saw another article recently about using broad-meplat bullets in the .45-70 on African game. It's not the cannon that a .458 Win Mag and up are but its certainly capable.
Dimitri, I saw a Remington Spartan (Russian made) double .30-06 for about $850 the other day. I too would like a double rifle but want something a little bigger. I've been real tempted to get the Pedersoli double muzzle loader in .58 cal, since I already shoot some .58s. It's not an elephant gun but it would be a lot of fun!
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:00 pm Post subject: Re: For those of you that want to hunt Africa...GRAPHIC MATERIAL |
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I'd take a double in 45-70 if it had a strong action and have it rechambered to 45-120. THAT would work as a elephant gun I believe.
Dimitri
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: For those of you that want to hunt Africa...GRAPHIC MATERIAL |
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Pedersoli makes a double .45-70 for about $3k I think. The muzzle loaders are around $900. Look for their "Kodiak" rifles.
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