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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:22 am    Post subject: ....cheap shot.... (get it?) Reply with quote

Picked up my new, 200$, H&R/NEF Parnder pump .20 ga Friday.
This thing was packed really nicely. No damage or scratches etc., wrapped in wax paper, plastic, hard foam etc.. came with a lock and a choke wrench/multi tool too.

The reciever and barrel appear to be made in China. Oh well....then shipped over here for final assembly and proofing.
The barrel, mag tube (4 cap +1) and top of reciever are matte, the sides of the reciever are posihed and rust blued/charcoalish and not too far off the matte color.
The reciver is ribbed, drilled and tapped, and shot-peened too.
The barrel's chamber is really thick and it locks up soild into the reciever. It comes apart OK and goes back together OK but it locks up tight.
The MOD choke comes out using a quarter and it's steel ready, bbl is 26".
It's even got a chromed bolt and an all metal trigger group, comes out in a jiff too.
The trigger broke after tiny bit of take up and was clean.
Factory claims 7.5lbs unloaded..... Yeh, it aint a feather but...


The furniture is American walnut, do thay make a 'scrap' grade? The buttstock has a bitty little knot or burl in it but at least it's smooth. The mating is still a tiny bit proud so at least they did not go nuts with the sanders. The jointery is par for the price.
The pad is a vented pillow but the exposed foam is open cell and really tacky. I liked it, some might not.

I put it together and cycled it, Mad , then took it back apart.
Burr's galore. So I got out some 800, 000 grit and lightly cleaned things up a little after removing the cosmoline. Yes, it still smells the same. Smile
The raceways, ejector, etc were in need of attention to they got some.
It was still pretty tight so I took in the back bathroom, put in some ear plugs and cycled the action about 570 times. After my arms fell off I sewed them back on and the lil' gun was good to go.

Got to my sportsmen club's trap range Saturday morning for a break in. I'm really getting back into upland wingshooting and I'm re-hooked bad.
It swings nice. Missed my first shot ay 16y, crushed the second....and it was on.

The rest of the club started showing up and we started shooting handicap. With the #8, 7/8oz. loads I could still crack them at 24y but I was missing a lot so I opted out.

The kids were all over this thng. They loved it. Some Jr. expert wingshooters got it burned up 3 boxes fast. One kid pulled a 23 or 24 at 22y with it and he was crushing them.

The wind was really up so the left's and straight-aways were taking off and really soaring....ROOSTER!!!!... made it fun and more like flushing stuff.
I got tired took a rest then the Jr's picked it back up and started back in.
I kid you not they were missing less with the NEF than they're fancy SC's. We all got a big hoot out of that.

We also did some tag-team stuff and shootin' chips (clean up). Just a day of fun doing this and other stuff. After a case of shells it felt like I hadn't shot it. It's comfy and it works.

It really looked out of place in the rack with the trap guns, SC's and classic wingshooters and man were there some nice ones. But it did the job and did it well. It cycled a case of shells and did not hicup even once. The bead came loose but some nail polish fixed that.
I used to use the term 'cheesebag' with an old buddy and we used same to describe cheap and cheesey things.
The lil' pop-gun got it's name early on, but now it's tounge in cheek as the thing is a shooter and it gets my respect.

After t/d and cleaning the barrel was still rock solid in the reciver and it looked like it hadn't been fired much. The action came around and cycles nicely with the shell's added intertia.

Quail opener is soon and we have a pheasent hunt coming on the property 10/1/09. I'm ready. Very Happy

I'd recomend this gun as a back-up/extra shooter or even a primary. The price is right, seems well made and it's definitely robust.
I love the premier and even entry level fine guns.
But with my meager hunting budget? I'll aspire to get one someday but for now this lil' bugger 'll have to do. It's easy on the wallet and body and it's a hoot to shoot. Time will tell how long it lasts sooooo....we'll see what we see.

The "cheesebag" :

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:10 am    Post subject: Re: ....cheap shot.... (get it?) Reply with quote

Oh- and by the by.... we were having a Property Party and, the breakfast and BBQ dinner is almost unbeliveable.

I'm getting a camera soon and you'll see.
Just about everything that walked, swam or flew at one time was very well represented. Salmon stakes the size of your leg, chicken, beef, pork, veggies, pies, cookies, cake etc., etc., ETC. The breakfasts were insane. Eggs, bacon, sausage, cereal, hot cakes, fruit, coffee, rolls, muffins, bagels, milk, OJ, tea etc... Some of the members told me I have some catching up to do...as at 160lbs I'm the only one on the t-shirt order list that wears a medium. Laughing And, I was a good boy and drank all my beer like Vince said I should at just such occaisions.
Aaaand that's pretty much the reason for not shooting yesterday. Me head twas a bit swollen. 15 packs hurt more than they used too.... Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:39 pm    Post subject: Re: ....cheap shot.... (get it?) Reply with quote

Darned Kids..... borrow your gun whoop your butt and leave. Very Happy I hate it when that happens.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:54 pm    Post subject: Re: ....cheap shot.... (get it?) Reply with quote

Hahahah- yeh, and they didn't payback the ammo either!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:48 pm    Post subject: Re: ....cheap shot.... (get it?) Reply with quote

I heard the magic word "Party"!!!!!!

Beer please!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:16 pm    Post subject: Re: ....cheap shot.... (get it?) Reply with quote

Party? where?
Now that we got Vince back, beers are ensured!!

By the way, nice gun stovie!!
Great price too!!

Damn I wish I got one.., that thing is illegal for average shooter in this Great Land Of Oz.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:18 pm    Post subject: Re: ....cheap shot.... (get it?) Reply with quote

Party I'll take a beer or three!!! Cheers

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:02 pm    Post subject: Re: ....cheap shot.... (get it?) Reply with quote

chambered221 wrote:
:party: I'll take a beer or three!!! Cheers


One beer coming up!

Note the clarity, lack of shaking, and compressed size, all for you. Nananana



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:29 pm    Post subject: Re: ....cheap shot.... (get it?) Reply with quote

I knew I'd find some beer drinkin on here somewhere... where's mine? Beer tender bring me another bar...or is that bartender....awww who cares... just give me a beer... Cheers Cheers Cheers Cheers Cheers Cheers Cheers Cheers Cheers Cheers Cheers Cheers Cheers Cheers Cheers Cheers Cheers Cheers Cheers ...there... BUUUUURRRRRP... that should hold me for a while...

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:59 am    Post subject: Re: ....cheap shot.... (get it?) Reply with quote

Glen- is it because it's a repeater?

Wiersy- is that a woodland cammo can? Hmmmm...deer won't be able to steal yer beer as easy.

Due to popular demand, we changed the name of the lil shotty to 'cheap shot'. Cheese Bag was a tad harsh and, is now re-reserved to truly cheesey things.

Like 221's jokes. Mad

I really waffled between the 870 Express and this shotty. The 870 is lighter and much nicer looking and made in the US. But it didn't have a chromed bolt, wasn't drilled and tapped (unless I missed something) and was about $150.00 more at least. I'm pretty happy with my choice and the money I saved can go for ammo, well, actually went for ammo already- 250 rounds goes pretty fast when yer having fun. So if it holds up I'm good to go!

Can't wait for it to get it's first limit. Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:37 pm    Post subject: Re: ....cheap shot.... (get it?) Reply with quote

Busch is made by the same people who make Budweiser. :puke:

The 870 is a very nice shotgun, you wouldn't have been disappointed with it either. As for it being drilled and tapped they are not, the mounting holes for the scope mount are the holes that fit the pins on the sides for the trigger unit.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:41 pm    Post subject: Re: ....cheap shot.... (get it?) Reply with quote

Stovie, because it is a PUMP ACTION SHOTGUN you need a different class of license (C or D) to operate or own one.

Here there is no RIGHT to own guns (or to defend yourself in any way.. figure that one out!).
Possession of guns is a privilege not a right.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:27 pm    Post subject: Re: ....cheap shot.... (get it?) Reply with quote

wiersy111 wrote:
Note the clarity, lack of shaking, and compressed size, all for you. Nananana

There just might be hope for you!!! I just wish ya had some better beer!!! BUSCH SUCKS!!! ROFL

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:29 pm    Post subject: Re: ....cheap shot.... (get it?) Reply with quote

wtf By the way I"m not the only one telling dumb jokes around hear!!! Buuuuurrrrp!!!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:30 am    Post subject: Re: ....cheap shot.... (get it?) Reply with quote

stovepipe wrote:
Oh- and by the by.... we were having a Property Party and, the breakfast and BBQ dinner is almost unbeliveable.

... And, I was a good boy and drank all my beer like Vince said I should at just such occaisions.
Aaaand that's pretty much the reason for not shooting yesterday. Me head twas a bit swollen. 15 packs hurt more than they used too.... Laughing

Well done Stoves...I'm proud of ya mate.

What is that can you have there Wiersy? Can't say I've ever heard of that one.

This one will set ya on the straight and narrow mate....and ensure a head full of jackhammers tommorrow.

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