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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:17 pm Post subject: Hydro Brass Forming |
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bulletin.accurateshoot...-form-die/
Have you wildcat reloading nuts seen this?
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DallanC Site Admin
Joined: Jan 18, 2005 Posts: 3572 Location: Utah
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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:34 pm Post subject: Re: Hydro Brass Forming |
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That's really cool. I always figured the factory has been doing this for a while? The automotive industry has been using hydro forming of sheetmetal for doors and fenders for quite a while now. Very useful technology.
I wonder how the plunger seal is on the die... I would expect some water to come squirting back out the top.
You guys seen the emergency fire starters that work similarly? A rapid compression of air ignites a tinder used to start a fire.
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gelandangan Super Member
Joined: May 07, 2006 Posts: 6398 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: Hydro Brass Forming |
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Great idea..
The mechanic side of my brain (a very tiny side of a tiny brain ) think that this die would be very easy to make starting with a standard sizing die, and a threaded plunger cylinder to fit the usual decapping pin hole.
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PaulS Super Member
Joined: Feb 18, 2006 Posts: 4330 Location: South-Eastern Washington - the State
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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:45 pm Post subject: Re: Hydro Brass Forming |
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gelandangan wrote: |
Great idea..
The mechanic side of my brain (a very tiny side of a tiny brain ) think that this die would be very easy to make starting with a standard sizing die, and a threaded plunger cylinder to fit the usual decapping pin hole. |
The two hard parts would be the shell holder - you could tap it and use a set-screw ground flat; and the tight fit for the plunger rod through the bushing that would replace the neck expander plunger and decapper. The snugger the fit the less water would leak out. O-ring seals wouldn't hold the pressure and it might be hard to find a seal that small that would. Maybe a small enough "poly-packing" would be available but even they only hold up to about 3500 psi. I would estimate the pressures to be three times that.
I don't use anything that needs that kind of case forming. My wildcats are all just neck up or down.
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Suzanne Super Member
Joined: Jun 27, 2009 Posts: 3323 Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:43 pm Post subject: Re: Hydro Brass Forming |
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I saw a video of a guy using water pressure like that to remove Berdan primers. He filled the case with water, placed a dowel into the case sitting on a wooden block with a hole for the primer to escape, whacked it and the primer easily came out. I get the wax out of my ears the same way, fill up one side with water and a clothes pin on my nose, stick a bic pen in my ear and whack it with a rolling pin. Wax migrates to the other ear and so if you're bent over the sink you clean two ears at once. It's a bit tricky to get the bic pen outa my head....sometimes a good sneeze works.
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slimjim Super Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 8314 Location: Fort Worth TX
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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: Hydro Brass Forming |
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LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, clothes pin to plug the nostrils, LOL!!! Thanks, Suz!!!
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PaulS Super Member
Joined: Feb 18, 2006 Posts: 4330 Location: South-Eastern Washington - the State
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Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:03 pm Post subject: Re: Hydro Brass Forming |
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Suz! don't say things like that, some blonde will go home and try it...
you made me cry from laughing so hard!
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