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Sub-sonic 30-30
Discussion regarding the reloading of ammunition and tuning of loads for accuracy
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 11:35 pm    Post subject: Sub-sonic 30-30 Reply with quote

Hi All,
Has anyone got experience with sub-sonic 30-30 loads?

I've found a few articles on the web about working up a load from scratch, but no-one has shared a load they've used.

ADI powders would be best, but anything is good for starters - even a .308 or 30-06 sub-sonic load for comparison...

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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:38 am    Post subject: Re: Sub-sonic 30-30 Reply with quote

Gday mate!

Welcome to the site!
where about from Victoria are you?


Subsonics shooter eh?
Join the club Very Happy Very Happy

Here is some like minded mob that shoots subsonics on a lot of conventional cartridges. Including the ubiquitous 30-30.

http://www.gmdr.com/lever/lowveldata.htm

Lots of data there!!
Good luck, and post your findings ok!

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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 6:32 am    Post subject: Re: Sub-sonic 30-30 Reply with quote

Welcome aboard Bavo. Pull up a stump...beer esky is over there...help ya self mate.

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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 6:53 am    Post subject: Re: Sub-sonic 30-30 Reply with quote

Oh for Pete sake...Another Aussie...I swear... You [Gelandangan] and Vince are recruiting them onto here... Laughing

Bavo...Welcome to this fine site. As stated...Grab a beer (make sure it's Vince's) and pull up a stump... Very Happy

Hummm...Never thought of shooting Sub-sonic rounds from my Jack Handle. I'll have to do some reading on that site that Gelandangan posted.

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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 7:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Sub-sonic 30-30 Reply with quote

Welcome to Hunting Nut Bavo !!!

9.0gr of Blue Dot in a 30-06 case scared but pretty interesting.
When I get more time I definitely want to read through these notes.
Thanks for the link geland !!!

I do question why no jacketed bullets in these types of loads ????

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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Sub-sonic 30-30 Reply with quote

They would probably do a gelandangan.... Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Sub-sonic 30-30 Reply with quote

Thats just plain mean !!! but kinda funny !!!

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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Sub-sonic 30-30 Reply with quote

Gelan,

Any 308Win data laying around?

Dimitri

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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 1:35 am    Post subject: Re: Sub-sonic 30-30 Reply with quote

Chambs, the reason no jacketed projectile in the list is the fact that if a jackedted pellet got stuck in the barrel it took too long to remove and there is chance of barrel got damaged.

Bushy, you might be right.. Very Happy

Mr D. I never actually got any interest of slowing down a 308, however, I heard from a few sites,
1.
www.quarterbore.net/fo...t-280.html

2.
www.silencertalk.com/f...experiment
www.silencertalk.com/f...experiment
www.silencertalk.com/f...experiment
etc this guy Artful is doing the 308 subsonics experiment with quire good write ups and pictures.
There are 16 experiments listed and all results are quite well documented there.

3.
I heard that "The LOAD" 13gb of RedDot is going near subs @1300fps on 180gn pellets..

Personally, I dont like subsonics on standard barrels because the twist are too slow.
You need to spin the projectile at a minimum RPM to give it a stable flight (Greenhill formula?)

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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 3:22 am    Post subject: Re: Sub-sonic 30-30 Reply with quote

Welcome . For subsonic I'd definitely stick with a heavy lead bullet to help slow it down .

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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 7:06 am    Post subject: Re: Sub-sonic 30-30 Reply with quote

Not to hijack a thread but... If we're going all subsonic here why choose a cartridge designed to push a bullet fast? A .45 Colt will push a 300 grain bullet to 1100 ft/sec easily and it’s within its design parameters. A .45-70 will do it with a 600 grain bullet. Trying to do this with a .308 seems like trying to use a Corvette as a farm tractor...

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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 9:58 am    Post subject: Re: Sub-sonic 30-30 Reply with quote

Cause other then 308's all I got is a 8mm Mauser. Smile

And I got the reloading dies and spare brass for the 308Win already. Smile

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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 1:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Sub-sonic 30-30 Reply with quote

D, then use the subsonic thing as an excuse to buy another gun!

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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Sub-sonic 30-30 Reply with quote

Pumpkinslinger wrote:
D, then use the subsonic thing as an excuse to buy another gun!


I'll drink to that Cheers

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