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Oletrapper Rookie Member
Joined: Dec 22, 2011 Posts: 20 Location: N. Kentucky
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:57 am Post subject: Coyotes and why I kill um. |
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The only good coyote is a dead coyote. I have witnessed them taking down new born calves, fauns and foraging for rabbits and digging out groundhogs. The link below shows shots taken with someones trail cam. Very graphic. Buck, as you can see, is still in velvet. That probably helped in its demise. When it comes to a coyote, kill um all!
www.pensacolafishingfo...es-102774/
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stovepipe Super Member
Joined: Sep 25, 2008 Posts: 4877 Location: Pine, Az.
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:13 am Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. |
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Yikes!
Nature can be brutal at times....
Been seeing more yotes lately at some of my upland spots, seem to be getting bolder...so I keep a few #3 Fasteel handy. Pushed through a mod choke at close range? Not a lot gonna walk away from that. Pelts are turning too here, make a nice hat, mits or possible's bag.
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Ominivision1 Super Member
Joined: Sep 20, 2010 Posts: 2984 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:37 am Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. |
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We had a farmer up the road that had 3 calves killed last year and with the lack of bigger predators to keep the coyotes in check are one reason they are multiplying fast. And as with the deer, the rear end of all 3 calves were eaten out!!
Yup Stovey, nature can be brutal.
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stovepipe Super Member
Joined: Sep 25, 2008 Posts: 4877 Location: Pine, Az.
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. |
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Yeh- I dont leave Jack's etc laying around after culling, I'll go gettum and give them to others, use 'em for back-strap burritos etc. There's so much encroachment now the habitat is going really fast so I'm not doing anything more to increase the predator populus, even though homes do a double-whammy on everything but predators, they love it. Maybe someday idiots will see the connection between development, loss of habitat and wildlife and predator activity in the back-yard of their new custom zillion$ housing tracts in once pristine hillsides and pans.
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slimjim Super Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 8314 Location: Fort Worth TX
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. |
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last week on the deer stand, two packs of yote were hott'n and a holler'n. there were no deer to be seen. We did get one of the yotes!
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gelandangan Super Member
Joined: May 07, 2006 Posts: 6397 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:13 pm Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. |
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Oletrapper wrote: |
The only good coyote is a dead coyote. ......... When it comes to a coyote, kill um all!
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Such were said about the Thylacine or more commonly called the Tasmanian tiger, about 80 years ago....
To the point that the government is paying bounty for every head collected.
Of course it is their fault that we farm in their habitat, bloody animal!
One day, we woke up and go.. "Oops".. they are extinct..
Sorry to put dampener on the enthusiasm, but as a hunter we also got to be conservationist.
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 5001 Location: NC foothills
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:27 pm Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. |
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Gelan, a good point however I don't think there is much danger in hunters causing coyotes to go extinct. They have expanded their range and numbers tremendously in recent years. I never dreamed I'd see any here when I was a kid and now I've seen several in the last year, without really looking for them. They were originally "west of the Mississippi" critters and now I've seen them within 200 yards of my home in North Carolina.
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Suzanne Super Member
Joined: Jun 27, 2009 Posts: 3323 Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:00 am Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. |
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I know a coyote in Missouri...he's real friendly tho...I wouldn't shoot him, he'd shoot back. I wouldn't shoot every one I saw, but they do need some checks and balances. If their natural predators are absent, so are the natural predators of the game they feed on. More food more coyotes. You know that a given area can only support so many predators and when one is absent others will fill in. You get rid of coyotes and here comes cougars. It's the normal workings of a basic law that works for all of us. A coyote eating a deer is just as natural as a frog or a bird eating an insect. Humans put a value on game animals and label coyotes as destructive predators. Coyotes don't know the difference from a calf or sheep what they know is food and how to get some. They take care of the weak and sick, culling out the unfit and stupid, before they can breed again which leaves the strong and fit animals to see another day. Personally I won't kill one, I have a very nice coyote pelt in my house but they hold a special value and mystic in my world. I would see them as a very challenging quarry though, if I were to hunt them.
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Elvis Super Member
Joined: Jul 27, 2008 Posts: 9253 Location: south island New Zealand
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:25 am Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. |
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good call galan and suz.
all of nature needs checks and balance, years back they shot the shags cause they ate too many trout... result too many trout and they got skinny n stunted. take out the bunnies and the stoats n ferrets take to bird life. now there is a predator that can be shot on site when ever and where ever.
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Vince Site Admin
Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 15715 Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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stovepipe Super Member
Joined: Sep 25, 2008 Posts: 4877 Location: Pine, Az.
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:17 am Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. |
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Beer, for Vince, before he blows, stat!
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11391 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:29 am Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. |
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Coyote?
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Oletrapper Rookie Member
Joined: Dec 22, 2011 Posts: 20 Location: N. Kentucky
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:42 am Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. |
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I wonder what he thinks about Kangaroos? lmao
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stovepipe Super Member
Joined: Sep 25, 2008 Posts: 4877 Location: Pine, Az.
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:45 am Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. |
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Oh he's got plenty of other criters ta tend to, snakes, cicada's, all manifest of creepy crawly's.
Livin' in a swamp's like that ya know.
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11391 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:02 am Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. |
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Oletrapper...I was alewding to Suz comment.
Let's see...The major aminal problem around here. The usual group. Raccoons, oposums, armadillos, cicadas, an assortment of large prehistoric flying bugs (they chase bats), foxes, an occasional coyote wondering through and bobcats. A few new ones added thanks to MDC (Missouri Department of Conservation), bears (from Georgia) elk and cougar (from the north country). Once in a great while a californian will rear it's ugly head up. And no swamps here. Just lagoons.
The rest are non-consiquencial.
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