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Coyotes and why I kill um.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:57 am    Post subject: Coyotes and why I kill um. Reply with quote

The only good coyote is a dead coyote. I have witnessed them taking down new born calves, fauns and foraging for rabbits and digging out groundhogs. The link below shows shots taken with someones trail cam. Very graphic. Buck, as you can see, is still in velvet. That probably helped in its demise. When it comes to a coyote, kill um all!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. Reply with quote

Yikes!

Nature can be brutal at times....

Been seeing more yotes lately at some of my upland spots, seem to be getting bolder...so I keep a few #3 Fasteel handy. Pushed through a mod choke at close range? Not a lot gonna walk away from that. Pelts are turning too here, make a nice hat, mits or possible's bag.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:37 am    Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. Reply with quote

We had a farmer up the road that had 3 calves killed last year and with the lack of bigger predators to keep the coyotes in check are one reason they are multiplying fast. And as with the deer, the rear end of all 3 calves were eaten out!!

Yup Stovey, nature can be brutal.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:20 am    Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. Reply with quote

Yeh- I dont leave Jack's etc laying around after culling, I'll go gettum and give them to others, use 'em for back-strap burritos etc. There's so much encroachment now the habitat is going really fast so I'm not doing anything more to increase the predator populus, even though homes do a double-whammy on everything but predators, they love it. Maybe someday idiots will see the connection between development, loss of habitat and wildlife and predator activity in the back-yard of their new custom zillion$ housing tracts in once pristine hillsides and pans.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. Reply with quote

last week on the deer stand, two packs of yote were hott'n and a holler'n. there were no deer to be seen. We did get one of the yotes!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. Reply with quote

Oletrapper wrote:
The only good coyote is a dead coyote. ......... When it comes to a coyote, kill um all!

Such were said about the Thylacine or more commonly called the Tasmanian tiger, about 80 years ago....
To the point that the government is paying bounty for every head collected.
Of course it is their fault that we farm in their habitat, bloody animal!

One day, we woke up and go.. "Oops".. they are extinct..

Sorry to put dampener on the enthusiasm, but as a hunter we also got to be conservationist.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. Reply with quote

Gelan, a good point however I don't think there is much danger in hunters causing coyotes to go extinct. They have expanded their range and numbers tremendously in recent years. I never dreamed I'd see any here when I was a kid and now I've seen several in the last year, without really looking for them. They were originally "west of the Mississippi" critters and now I've seen them within 200 yards of my home in North Carolina.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. Reply with quote

I know a coyote in Missouri...he's real friendly tho...I wouldn't shoot him, he'd shoot back. I wouldn't shoot every one I saw, but they do need some checks and balances. If their natural predators are absent, so are the natural predators of the game they feed on. More food more coyotes. You know that a given area can only support so many predators and when one is absent others will fill in. You get rid of coyotes and here comes cougars. It's the normal workings of a basic law that works for all of us. A coyote eating a deer is just as natural as a frog or a bird eating an insect. Humans put a value on game animals and label coyotes as destructive predators. Coyotes don't know the difference from a calf or sheep what they know is food and how to get some. They take care of the weak and sick, culling out the unfit and stupid, before they can breed again which leaves the strong and fit animals to see another day. Personally I won't kill one, I have a very nice coyote pelt in my house but they hold a special value and mystic in my world. I would see them as a very challenging quarry though, if I were to hunt them.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:25 am    Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. Reply with quote

good call galan and suz.
all of nature needs checks and balance, years back they shot the shags cause they ate too many trout... result too many trout and they got skinny n stunted. take out the bunnies and the stoats n ferrets take to bird life. now there is a predator that can be shot on site when ever and where ever.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:59 am    Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. Reply with quote

I see a similar problem here in Australia with feral cats...only thing is the cats are feral and non native, whereas the coyote is as native.

Stovey hit the nail squarely on the head when he mentioned developers...they care about nothing other than the almighty DOLLAR. Natural habitat...nah... its simply money waiting to be made, and the quicker "we" can claim it and build on it the quicker "we" can move onto more "natural habitat" and build it out. You say native animals need the land..."WE" need the money or the economy will fail.

Bastards Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad ...I would happily declare open season on every single one of them Shooting Sniper Pistol Shooting ...and I really don't care for the argument that says..."without developers you wouldn't have a house to live in". To that I say Bullsh1te...developers have only been around for a hundred years and people have survived and had houses without their greed for thousands of years before that!!! In fact, the world is full of buildings that are hundreds of years old and still solid, wheras pretty much every house or building put up by a developer has a very short life span. Planned built in obsolescence means more money down the track. Rant burr

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:17 am    Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. Reply with quote

Beer, for Vince, before he blows, stat!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:29 am    Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. Reply with quote

Coyote?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:42 am    Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. Reply with quote

I wonder what he thinks about Kangaroos? lmao
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Coyote?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:45 am    Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. Reply with quote

Oh he's got plenty of other criters ta tend to, snakes, cicada's, all manifest of creepy crawly's.

Livin' in a swamp's like that ya know.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:02 am    Post subject: Re: Coyotes and why I kill um. Reply with quote

Oletrapper...I was alewding to Suz comment.

Let's see...The major aminal problem around here. The usual group. Raccoons, oposums, armadillos, cicadas, an assortment of large prehistoric flying bugs (they chase bats), foxes, an occasional coyote wondering through and bobcats. A few new ones added thanks to MDC (Missouri Department of Conservation), bears (from Georgia) elk and cougar (from the north country). Once in a great while a californian will rear it's ugly head up. And no swamps here. Just lagoons.

The rest are non-consiquencial.

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