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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:29 pm Post subject: Re: Best Powder measure |
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Well Cabela's didn't have the Redding 3BR in the store so I brought an RCBS home. I'll let you know how it works for me.
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English Mike Super Member
Joined: Jan 08, 2007 Posts: 1709 Location: Whitehaven, Cumbria, UK
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: Best Powder measure |
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I have an RCBS Uniflow powder measure that's accurate with ball powder but a pain with stick powders.
For the latter - invariably rifle loads - I use the RCBS Chargemaster scale & dispenser combo. Throws dead on nine times out of ten & never more than a tenth of a grain off.
I've used several Lyman powder measures & found they are less than consistent with Red Dot unless the hopper is topped up far more frequently than should be needed.
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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: Best Powder measure |
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Well, I didn't have much luck with this RCBS. I cleaned as per the instructions and then but some H414 in it and started to throw charges to see how consistent is was. After 40 throws I cleaned it up and placed it back in the box. I ran from 35.8 to 36.9 grains. It never settled in. I need more consistency than that.
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: Best Powder measure |
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Slim, there is some technique involved there too. When using mine I make sure to bump it against the stop at least once on both ends of the stroke. Hard enough to jar any powder loose when charging a case and to "bounce" the powder a bit when it refills. Consistency in the movement is the key.
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Elvis Super Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:36 pm Post subject: Re: Best Powder measure |
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gee that bit of advice sounds familiar ??lol
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:10 pm Post subject: Re: Best Powder measure |
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Pumpkinslinger wrote: |
Slim, there is some technique involved there too. When using mine I make sure to bump it against the stop at least once on both ends of the stroke. Hard enough to jar any powder loose when charging a case and to "bounce" the powder a bit when it refills. Consistency in the movement is the key. |
With my Redding Powder Throw, I have three things that I include in my routine when throwing charges.
Firstly I ensure I maintain a minimum of 75% capacity in the hopper...
Secondly I regularly "tap" (whack) the metal side of the thrower body with a 6" length of garden hose to settle the powder, and lastly...
When throwing a charge (like Punkin) I make the lever movement up and down a very positive and firm movement employing a "double tap" at the top to ensure all powder has dropped from the measuring reservoir.
By doing these three things I get consistent throws of powder, although stick powders sometimes cause a slight hangup, which is not a problem really. Bear in mind I always trickle the last .5 gr anyway.
Cheers, Vince
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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:13 am Post subject: Re: Best Powder measure |
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Thanks for the additional advise. I was trying to be consistent with my movements though I did not "double tap". Sometimes the pour stroke was harder than others to start which I figure was some balls of powder getting in the way. If I have to trickle in the last half of grain of powder, I'm not sure I'm saving that much time compared to a measuring scoop, expecially for the price of the equipment.
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MacD Super Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:20 am Post subject: Re: Best Powder measure |
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It took me awhile to get my technique down. Smartly up till it raps the stop and then a two count and then down and tap the side of the drum several times with my finger. I also have a Bounce sheet wrapped around my powder resevior to reduce static cling. Lee recommends running a couple of full containers through the measure to coat all surfaces with graphite. With all smaller grain powders I can get +/- 0.1 grain with the majority being dead on. I can tell when I throw light most times by the feel of the stroke. It just isn't firm. I also adjust my measure up to the charge and then fiddle around until I think I am in the middle of the setting. I do this only for pistol as the range from starting load to max is often less than a grain. I know that sounds a bit too precise but it is all part of the fun of reloading.
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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: Best Powder measure |
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Thanks, MacD. I put the RCBS back in the box until I figure out what is next. I'm thinking I might go over to another buddy's man cave and try his Redding 3BR and see how it does and if I can improve my technique. I would have been doing better with a scoop and a trickler last nigh.
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Donut Slayer Super Member
Joined: Jun 27, 2007 Posts: 594 Location: Pensacola, Florida
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Ominivision1 Super Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: Best Powder measure |
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I agree DS, I also have one of the Lee perfect powder measure that has never failed me whatever powder I dumped into the little red hopper.
Slim:
As far as my Hornady LNL powder dispenser, the first time I sent it back was because you could never get any consistency (off as much as 2.0grs) with any powder, when I got it back, it worked great with extruded powders but ball powders were all over the place. I did call and was on the phone with a Hornady tech for almost 45min and he pointed me to a file which I knew about and adjusting the trickling speed on the unit.
After all was said and done that night adjusting the trickling mode, it went to lasting more than 4 minutes no matter what the settings were at, he gave me a return tag to send it back. Now I never used the rcbs powder measure but this Hornady has what they call a "twitcher" power and normal modes and tried both settings and....poopoo.
Good luck on the rcbs, for now my Lee will charge my cases.
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Ominivision1 Super Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:56 pm Post subject: Re: Best Powder measure |
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Yup DS, that was just before Christmas last year. I'm sure I got a lemon and when it comes back and if it doesn't work properly again, I'll ask for a refund.
What boggles the mind is how come a cheap Lee powder measure ($20-$40) can out do an expensive electronic measure.
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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Best Powder measure |
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DS, your very kind! I sent you an email.
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