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BigBlue Super Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:47 pm Post subject: And These People Are Allowed To Vote! |
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slimjim Super Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 8314 Location: Fort Worth TX
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: And These People Are Allowed To Vote! |
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I think you should only be allowed to vote if you are a US citizen and you pay taxes. Otherwize, people vote for the government that gives them money, etc. Wasn't one of our found ing fathers that said as soon as 50 percent of the people realize they can vote to have the government give money to them, democracy is lost.
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 5001 Location: NC foothills
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: And These People Are Allowed To Vote! |
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Personally I think that if you receive govt. aid you should be prohibited from voting in that govt's elections. i.e Fed aid = no Fed vote, state aid = no state vote. I would be willing to allow some exceptions for long term disability or something similar.
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slimjim Super Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 8314 Location: Fort Worth TX
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: And These People Are Allowed To Vote! |
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Pumpkinslinger wrote: |
I would be willing to allow some exceptions for long term disability or something similar. |
Exceptions only crack open the door for debate shifting the line. No Exceptions.
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BigBlue Super Member
Joined: Jan 16, 2006 Posts: 1108 Location: Lehigh Township, Pennsylvania
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:26 pm Post subject: Re: And These People Are Allowed To Vote! |
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The same mindless voting that had us suffer through years of Ted Kennedy as a U.S. Senator has given us four years of Obama. I think your right on the money about preventing anyone on the dole from voting. Pandering to the non-working class has earned Obama and his ilk many a vote. Here in PA. there is a battle going on regarding the requirement of voter I.D. I see nothing wrong with requiring people to actually be who they say they are before being allowed to vote, but then again it might prevent the old Chicago tradition of allowing dead folks a vote.
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Ominivision1 Super Member
Joined: Sep 20, 2010 Posts: 2984 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:29 pm Post subject: Re: And These People Are Allowed To Vote! |
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I agree BB, to bad them idiots in Washington didn't say..
1. If an Illegal immigrant is caught, he/she will be given 2 choices only. One is to serve in our military for minimum 4 years and be offered citizenship or face immediate deportation.
2. You want to vote? Must be US citizen period!!
3. I would allow one exemption only for for the military who are serving for the US for aid for long term disability and or select long term disability.
4. Do Illegals pay taxes? --> roygermano.com/2011/02...pay-taxes/
5. And Illegals get tax credits? Yup ---> www.factcheck.org/2012...mmigrants/
6. How much do the Illegals send to other country's? ----> www.examiner.com/artic...-to-mexico
It burns my arse as my company was sued a few years ago for not accepting an application from a Latino worker that had no docs with her at all but yet sued us because we did not hire her based on race!!
Ok off rant.
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Elvis Super Member
Joined: Jul 27, 2008 Posts: 9239 Location: south island New Zealand
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:56 am Post subject: Re: And These People Are Allowed To Vote! |
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what race??? car bike or foot????
we are all humans so how does race come into anything????
either you belong in/to a country or your an immigrant alien.
either you are or you are not.
behave or be gone???
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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:22 am Post subject: Re: And These People Are Allowed To Vote! |
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Elvis wrote: |
behave or be gone??? |
+1
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BigBlue Super Member
Joined: Jan 16, 2006 Posts: 1108 Location: Lehigh Township, Pennsylvania
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:26 am Post subject: Re: And These People Are Allowed To Vote! |
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Ominivision1 wrote: |
It burns my arse as my company was sued a few years ago for not accepting an application from a Latino worker that had no docs with her at all but yet sued us because we did not hire her based on race!! |
Now we are to be forced to hire criminals? The fact that she crossed over the border into this country without docs makes her a criminal and she should be treated as such. Hell if left to me I'd treat her as a foreign invader to be shot on sight!!! If our government can't or more to the point "won't" protect our borders then they are not doing their job and need replacing ASAP!!!
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radar Super Member
Joined: Oct 01, 2008 Posts: 1109 Location: North Island New Zealand
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: And These People Are Allowed To Vote! |
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Just a question, if you have a green card are you entitled to vote?
Wifes cousin is a Scientist Dr in New Jersey and one of my better officers ahs just announced he's going to the States to marry his sweetheart in Utah....can they vote both have green cards.
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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:21 pm Post subject: Re: And These People Are Allowed To Vote! |
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I don't believe they are supposed to. However, if the state they vote in doesn't require an photo ID, they can go up and claim to be someone else on in the voter registration data base (even someone that has passed away but still on the list) and get their votes counted that way.
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 5001 Location: NC foothills
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: And These People Are Allowed To Vote! |
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I heard that soldiers killed in Iraq or Afghanistan sometime in the past have completed early voting for Obama...
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Elvis Super Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:02 pm Post subject: Re: And These People Are Allowed To Vote! |
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Vince Site Admin
Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 15704 Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:15 pm Post subject: Re: And These People Are Allowed To Vote! |
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Pumpkinslinger wrote: |
I heard that soldiers killed in Iraq or Afghanistan sometime in the past have completed early voting for Obama... |
Well, I remember from my time in the Army that we were not exempt from voting, regardless of where we were or what we were doing. Note that voting is compulsory in Australia, so we had no choice, but they did make facilities available to us. However, these facilities were only available for a short time, maybe a couple of weeks, prior to the actual voting day.
I believe that if a defence member wishes to vote, then he has the right to have his vote counted...regardless of where he is or who he is voting for in the election. But, this Postal Voting system should be very closely supervised and controlled, and only available for a small window prior to the election...but it must be available.
Cheers, Vince
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 5001 Location: NC foothills
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: And These People Are Allowed To Vote! |
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Vince, you may have missed my point... Those guys have been dead for months, if not years, yet somehow their votes for the Big Uh-O were recently made. Note that the Democrats are opposed to voter ID laws that would deter fraud.
_________________ Mike
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