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BigBlue Super Member
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English Mike Super Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:38 pm Post subject: Re: Failed Assasination |
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The assailant is a small time crook & drug dealer.
Pity he was brought down rather than taken out.
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BigBlue Super Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: Failed Assasination |
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The assassin carried that one pistol and two knives. With the pistol misfiring, I'm surprised he didn't use one of the knives. As important as a political assassination is, you think he would have carried a back up pistol or at least tested that one a little better. I'll bet that Ol' Ahmed needed to change his drawers.
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Elvis Super Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: Failed Assasination |
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geez guys dont get me excited.... I thought it was the P.T.!!!!!
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: Failed Assasination |
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If that is considered a assassination attempt. I guess coughing on someone will be one next!
It was most likely staged to gain him some sort of political support. Bulgarians are already mentioning that fact, and it was a "gas gun" used, either one meant for defensive purposes that fires tear gas only, or a airsoft gun as the movie/media industry has gone to them instead of their original gas guns as they are cheaper and replicate a more variety of firearms.
Similar to this for a airsoft gun -> www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA5Bgb5Zby4
Either way, his life was not at risk. It was a big PR stunt that people bought. More then likely organized by Ahmed Dogan himself, seeing as it was a ethnic Turk who was the "shooter".
Ahmed Dogan was a Communist Secret Service agent before the fall of Communism in Bulgaria. So anything he says, and does, is typically questionable.
Dimitri
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BigBlue Super Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:34 am Post subject: Re: Failed Assasination |
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This already in Wikipedia: On January 19, 2013, there was a failed assassination attempt on Dogan at a party congress. An assailant pointed a gas pistol charged with blank cartridges at Dogan, which failed to fire. A gas pistol is a non-leathal self-defense gun, but when used at close range it can be lethal. However, in this case, the gun may cause injuries, but they would be non-lethal, experts say. The assailant was identified as Oktay Yenimehmedov, an ethnic Turk who has previously been arrested for drug possession, robberies and hooliganism.
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:44 am Post subject: Re: Failed Assasination |
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It doesn't make much gramatical sense, but this is what Bulgarian media is reporting:
news.ibox.bg/news/id_190260806
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There have been many mistakes in the organization of such a political event such as a conference DPS.
Proof of this is that security is made in the hall to be imported gun and then did not intervene while running forward for a few meters to the floor.
It commented live on TV7 Tatiana Ivanova Association of companies guarding the technical means and Tihomir Bezlov Center for the Study of Democracy .
Experts said Ahmed Dogan himself saved his life yesterday , and security in Hall 3 of the NPC is asleep attack against MRF leader.
Despite the comments that this is staged, to unite the ranks of the party election, the topic is on the agenda - there is a breach of security, which should be particularly vigilant when such gathering of people and party leaders.
Enimehmedov not want to kill Dogan , experts say. Expertise proved that three bullets in the gun can not take human life. relevant question remains however what needs to change in the organization of such events to prevent new attempts to assassinate politicians. |
dnes.dir.bg/temite/new..._id=121627
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This was announced at an extraordinary press conference, Director of CDI Senior Commissioner Valeri Yordanov said on "Focus." results have come from the weapon, said Yordanov. On examination, performed on three rounds that were found, it is clear that the two of them sound signaling that do not have a patron, but only with gunpowder. they used to play the sound effect.
The third round is technically pepper which is used for animal protection, said Senior Commissioner Valeri Yordanov. They can hurt, but not kill, he said. "cartridge was broken and pieces are available locally. some metal was in the gun and plastic loose.'s very possible for itself to fight cartridge is broke, "said Senior Commissioner Valeri Yordanov. Since these bullets can not hurt seriously, the attacker can not be raised charges of attempted murder, and charges of hooliganism , it was clear from the press conference. Chief Commissioner Valeri Yordanov recalled the incident with the Prime Minister Tsvetanov than three or four months. Upon it the one that leaped with gas weapon against car NGOs, it was raised charges of hooliganism, due to the type of weapon that was used.
According to him, a very serious question is whether will be held responsible for people who have beaten the attacker. During the work these people will be identified and will consider prosecution. my personal opinion is yes, Yordanov added. Apparently the attacker was able to access other delegates said Yordanov. |
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25-year-old Oktay Enimehmedov who attacked a gas pistol the former leader Ahmed Dogan, during his speech to the Eighth National Conference party on Saturday, did not intend to kill policy, but it hurt.
This is the conclusion of experts from the Institute of Psychology at the Interior Ministry, who worked on the case until late at night on Sunday announced an emergency press conference at the ministry on Sunday Nedelcho Stoychev boss.
"Home of the perpetrator in Sofia found a suicide note and because he thought he could die. Enimehmedov used cartridges alarm sound, its purpose was to demonstrate through sound of Ahmed Dogan and all present that his opinion should be respected and Dogan know that is not untouchable, "summarized the reasoning of the attacker Stoychev.
The letter was addressed to the mother of the young man in it, he apologized, he might not be able to complete their higher education. 25-year-old student is burgazliya architecture fifth year in HUAC in Sofia.
In the words of the Enimehmedov told investigators he himself planned "action" and "in no way be taken to be connected with other people and motives," said another head of psychologists in national office.
According Stoichev intentions clearly enough Enimehmedov is demonstrated by the fact that the gun was loaded with bullets alarm sound, which can only produce a loud sound.
Attack "for the good of the country"
"One goal of the perpetrator is to become publicly known and to share their views. He is described as Bulgarian patriot who does this for the good of the country ... Oktay Enimehmedov is defined as an honest man of high moral character and self-sufficient in decisions. His offense is an emanation of the ego by seeking to show that it is present in this world and has something to say to the public, "said the director of the Institute of Psychology at the Ministry.
"What was found at the address in Sofia, will help us to interpret this case," said quite succinctly and Interior Minister Tsvetan Tsvetanov, who thanked the Stoychev colleagues that worked with Enimehmedov to 3.00 am on Sunday.
Hour before the press conference at the Ministry of Interior, Sofia City Prosecutor Nikolay Kokinov also said that so far there is no evidence that the attacker planned act together with others. Briefly stated that in general, his motives were personal.
Regarding accusations Enimehmedov, Kokinov confirm information Saturday evening that the 25-year-old burgazliya not be indicted for attempted murder as a gas pistol without magazine and three rounds (two alarm sound and one with pepper spray - editor's note.) was not reasonably possible to murder.
Enimehmedov will be charged wholesale vandalism and threats of murder. If his guilt is proven in court, he could get up to five years in prison, as under the provisions of the Criminal Code event the young man been very daring. Therefore, will remain behind bars for 72 hours, after which it is expected to be requested permanent custody of the Sofia Regional Court, said more Kokinov. |
He used caps, not blanks, Bulgarian Interior Ministry and the Institute of Psychology, both claim that he never intended to kill the guy, nor was it possible to kill him according to the officials and they wont even try him as attempted murder.
There is also references in articles that the "attacker" was actually a Youth Member of the same party. And that Dogan was planning on retiring at this conference, which is why most semi-official and public opinion in Bulgaria is that it was more likely staged.
Dimitri
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DallanC Site Admin
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:07 pm Post subject: Re: Failed Assasination |
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Pepper spray bullets??? never heard of such a thing.
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: Failed Assasination |
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It is to get around the gun bans in those countries. They also do not fire calibers that they make real ammunition for.
Dimitri
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Suzanne Super Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:34 pm Post subject: Re: Failed Assasination |
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Can't wait for the US National news to claim this was a real gun shooting real bullets
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: Failed Assasination |
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They already did the first day when it happened. By claiming the gun jammed which is why it was a "failed assassination attempt", which is why this thread exists.
Bulgarian news reported almost immediately, so did many European news agencies, that it was just a "gas gun".
Sensationalism is king in the media.
Dimitri
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Suzanne Super Member
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