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Vince Site Admin
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roklok Super Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: HUNTING PIGS THE OLD FASHIONED WAY |
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It has been and is done that way by a few people over here, but not by me!!
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Gil Martin Super Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: HUNTING PIGS THE OLD FASHIONED WAY |
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Never did it, but it sounds like real fair chase hunting. All the best...
Gil
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Flint54 Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: HUNTING PIGS THE OLD FASHIONED WAY |
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Vince Site Admin
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: HUNTING PIGS THE OLD FASHIONED WAY |
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DallanC Site Admin
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: HUNTING PIGS THE OLD FASHIONED WAY |
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Saw an episode of "Ted Barta" where he did it... seemed well... less humane than a quick rifle shot. I kindof got turned off to it after that episode (but I'll admit right off he did try hard to kill it as fast and quick as possible... but it standing there held in position by a pack of dogs waiting to be stuck didnt seem overly sportsmanlike LOL).
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: HUNTING PIGS THE OLD FASHIONED WAY |
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Dog hunting nah! I dont like it much myself
But I got to admit the prospect of hunting animals with primitive weapons like thouse interests me.
As for Pig hunting with spears ... sure if I was on a tree
Dimitri
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1895ss Super Member
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RPM1031 Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 6:51 am Post subject: Re: HUNTING PIGS THE OLD FASHIONED WAY |
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10ring, that is the medieval way of hunting bore and was used through the 1700's in Europe. My wife and I were just talking about it the other day. (she was telling me about it)
Never done it put talked to a guide that said knife hunts were his favorite way to hunt hogs. The dogs run them down and pin the hog then you kill it with your knife, like on Barts's show.
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Vince Site Admin
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:17 am Post subject: Re: HUNTING PIGS THE OLD FASHIONED WAY |
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DallanC wrote: |
Saw an episode of "Ted Barta" where he did it... seemed well... less humane than a quick rifle shot. I kindof got turned off to it after that episode (but I'll admit right off he did try hard to kill it as fast and quick as possible... but it standing there held in position by a pack of dogs waiting to be stuck didnt seem overly sportsmanlike LOL).
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I know it doesn't seem fair using dogs, but believe me the doggs get as good as they give. The dogs now wear big, thick, wide, studded collars and often a leather braest plate as well. Never seen a pig dog that wasn't covered in scars from encounters with pigs.
Not uncommon for them to be killed.
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1895ss Super Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:41 am Post subject: Re: HUNTING PIGS THE OLD FASHIONED WAY |
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RPM1031 wrote: |
The dogs run them down and pin the hog then you kill it with your knife, like on Barts's show. |
That hardly seems like fair chase . If you are going to use a knife OK but why tire the pig out first by running it half to death with dogs then stick it ............. !!!!!!!!!!!!! Kinda like running a deer a few miles with a truck then shooting it. "Doesn't sound like fair chase to me". "CHICKEN" Like shooting fish in a barrel........... !!!! Be a friggin man and do it without dogs if you want to prove you are a hero, otherwise use a gun and get it over with!!!!!!!!!!! And then some wonder why hunters get a bad name............. I'm sorry but I believe in fair chase and I know opinions on fair chase vary...... JMHO
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roklok Super Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:43 am Post subject: Re: HUNTING PIGS THE OLD FASHIONED WAY |
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I agree with 1895ss,this hardly seems fair and sure wouldnt seem to help hunters image any.On the other hand the method Flint54 described seems much more like a fair hunt,not that I would be interested in doing it.There seems to be a very fine line between fair chase and unethical in some situations and everybody might draw the line at a different point. What about mountain lion or bear hunting with hounds? Or hunting over bait? Everbody has different opinions on these subjects. Personally hunting anything over bait turns me off,but hunting with hounds,especially mountain lions,seems a little better(maybe its just because I dont like cats).
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:50 pm Post subject: Re: HUNTING PIGS THE OLD FASHIONED WAY |
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I've got to agree with you 1895. I myself prefer when I'm hunting to ether have the animal drop almost instantly if it wont I wouldnt shoot.
Want to really see fair chase ?? Read this:
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9896288/
Now thats a fair fight! Would take alittle more adernilin then I have in my body to pull that off
Dimitri
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ladyhunter Rookie Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:57 am Post subject: Re: HUNTING PIGS THE OLD FASHIONED WAY |
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My hubby and me have killed plenty of hogs with rifle and bow but there is nothing like using the spear or the knife to end the hunt. Let you get real close to the action
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DallanC Site Admin
Joined: Jan 18, 2005 Posts: 3572 Location: Utah
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:03 am Post subject: Re: HUNTING PIGS THE OLD FASHIONED WAY |
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ladyhunter wrote: |
My hubby and me have killed plenty of hogs with rifle and bow but there is nothing like using the spear or the knife to end the hunt. Let you get real close to the action |
Welcome to the site Ladyhunter
Hog hunting seems fun with a bow or gun. The Tred show I mentioned above seemed at first a bit of a turnoff to me but I've since spent some time thinking about it and its really no different than here in the west where people run cougar with dogs.
How many dogs does it take to run hogs? I know you need at least 7 and preferably 11 or so to run cougar (any less and a big cat will just kill'em).
-DallanC
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