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slimjim Super Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 8314 Location: Fort Worth TX
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:35 pm Post subject: Muslim Free Zone |
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I got this today from a friend...I have never gone to this gun range. Pretty interesting comments this woman makes on her website and at the range!
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Shooting Range Owner bans Muslims from her establishment - Read Why
Jan Morgan is facing controversy after declaring her business a “Muslim free zone” Sunday.
The owner of Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range in Hot Springs, Arkansas. has drawn a line in the sand, and while critics will get angry they should read her reasons why.
After the recent influx of violence perpetuated by self-proclaimed Islamists, Morgan began to study the religion and discovered “109 verses commanding hate, murder and terror against all human beings who refuse to submit or convert to Islam.”
On her website, Jan Morgan Media, Morgan, an investigative journalist and certified NRA gun instructor, explained that her decision was made based on facts.
Read her ten-point reasoning that has already provoked controversy:
I officially declare my business, The Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range, a MUSLIM FREE ZONE.....
1) The Koran, which I have read and studied thoroughly and (which all muslims align themselves with), contains 109 versescommanding hate, murder and terror against all human beings who refuse to submit or convert to Islam. Read those verses of violence here.
2) My life has been threatened repeatedly by Muslims who are angry that I have studied their koran and have, over the past two years, been exposing the vileness of the Koran and its murderous directives.
3) The barbaric act of beheading an innocent American in Oklahoma by a Muslim,
- the Boston bombings(by Muslims),
- the Fort Hood mass shooting (by a Muslim) that killed 13 people and injured over 30 people,
- and the murder of 3000 innocent people (by Muslims) on 9/11 .
This is more than enough loss of life on my home soil at the hands of Muslims to substantiate my position that Muslims can and will follow the directives in their Koran and kill here at home.
4) Because the nature of my business involves firearms and shooting firearms in an enclosed environment, my patrons are not comfortable being around Muslims who align themselves with a religion that clearly commands hate, murder, and violence against all non-Muslims. Therefore many of my patrons are uncomfortable around Muslims with guns. (Can you blame them?)
5) My range rents and sells guns to my patrons. Why would I want to rent or sell a gun and hand ammunition to someone who aligns himself with a religion that commands him to kill me?
6) Muslims, who belong to and/or, support ISIS, are threatening to kill innocent Americans.
- Muslims, who belong to or support AL Qaeda, are threatening to kill innocent Americans.
- Muslims who belong to or support HAMAS are threatening to kill innocent Americans.
See a common thread here?
7) I not only have the right to refuse service but a RESPONSIBILITY to provide a safe environment for people to shoot and train on firearms. I can and have turned people away if I sense they are under the influence of alcohol or mind altering drugs. I have a federal firearms license…
The ATF informed us when we received the license that if we feel any reason for concern about selling someone a firearm, even sense that something is not right about an individual, or we are concerned about that persons mental state, even if they pass a background check, we do not have to sell that person a gun.
In other words, a federal agency has given us this kind of discretion for service based on the nature of the business. I can and have turned people away if I sense an issue with their mental state. So… it’s difficult to imagine how the DOJ could have issues with this when ATF gave us this discretion.
8) I have no way of looking at Islam other than as a theocracy, not a religion. Islam is undoubtedly the union of political, legal, and religious ideologies. In other words law, religion and state are forged together to form what Muslims refer to as “The Nation of Islam.” Once again it is given the sovereign qualities of a nation with clerics in the governing body and Sharia law all in one. This is a Theocracy, not a religion.
The US Constitution does not protect a theocracy. The 1stAmendment is very specific about protecting the rights of individuals from the government, as it concerns the practice of religions, not theocracies. It clearly differentiates between government and religion. Again protecting the individual’s religious beliefs and practices from (the state) government. In Islam religion and state are one.
We are a Nation governed by laws, or the law of the land the U.S. Constitution. We are not a Nation that is governed by religion, politicians, or clerics.
How, then, can anyone say that the practice of Islam is protected by the U.S. Constitution?
The Muslim Brotherhood has a documented plan for the destruction of America from within, discovered by our own government during a raid of MB operatives in America. In addition, I am very cognizant of the civilization jihad underway in my country by American Muslims. In a number of states Muslims, through our legal system, are trying to force us to accept Sharia Law over Constitutional law. I do not wish to do business with people who stand against the Constitution and are fighting to replace it.
9) Islam allows Muslims to kill their own children (honor killing) if the behavior of those children embarrasses or dishonors the family name. (Did you know that dating outside of the faith is justification for murdering their daughters and this has already occurred on American soil?) Why would I want people (who believe it’s okay to murder their own children), be in the presence of other children? My patrons often bring their kids to the range to teach them to shoot. I am responsible for providing a safe environment for those children to learn gun safety and shooting sports.
10) In the 14 hundred year history of Islam,Muslims have murdered over 270 millionpeople. Not all Muslims are terrorists, butalmost all terrorists in the world right now are Muslim. Since you can’t determine by visual assessment which ones will kill you and which ones will not, I am going to go with the line of thought that ANY HUMAN BEING who would either knowingly or unknowingly support a “religion” that commands the murder of all people who refuse to submit or convert to that religion, is not someone I want to know or do business with. I hold adults accountable for the religion they align themselves with.
In summary, I not only have the right , but a responsibility to provide a safe environment for my customers. I do not believe my decision is religious discrimination because I do not classify Islam as a religion. It is a theocracy/terrorist organization that hides behind the mask of religion in order to achieve its mission of world domination.
People who shoot at my range come from all religious backgrounds … some are atheists… I do not care about their religious beliefs. I care about the safety of my customers who come to shoot here. The government allows businesses to ban me from entering their business with my gun because the property owner feels uncomfortable or wants to provide a “safe” environment for their patrons which is in clear violation of my 2nd Amendment right to bear arms, so… I should be able to deny service to people on the same premise. Can my government really force me to invite someone who had threatened to kill me into my home or business?
I will do whatever is necessary to provide a safe environment for my customers, even at the cost of the increased threats and legal problems this decision will likely provoke.
Jan Morgan- Owner / The Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range. Jan Morgan Declares Her Business a “Muslim Free Zone” …. NO Muslims Allowed !!! NONE!!!
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RePete Super Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:26 pm Post subject: Re: Muslim Free Zone |
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dhc4ever Super Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:54 pm Post subject: Re: Muslim Free Zone |
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Now if we could only get the immigration dept and the various state law systems on board.
No further muslim immigration, if you're muslim and break the law, you go to gaol, your family gets deported to whatever muslim third world cespit they came from, you follow at the end of your gaol term.
Give them the same treatment/tolerence they show to everyone who isnt muslim.
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Elvis Super Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:51 pm Post subject: Re: Muslim Free Zone |
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give that girl a bacon sandwich!!!!!!
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Vince Site Admin
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:53 am Post subject: Re: Muslim Free Zone |
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dhc4ever wrote: |
Now if we could only get the immigration dept and the various state law systems on board.
No further muslim immigration, if you're muslim and break the law, you go to gaol, your family gets deported to whatever muslim third world cespit they came from, you follow at the end of your gaol term.
Give them the same treatment/tolerence they show to everyone who isnt muslim. |
...or if they are a second or third etc generation born in country, give them a choice of muslim country they wish to go to. If they won't pick, then one will be chosen for them, whether they like it or not. Whichever way, they WILL be deported.
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Gil Martin Super Member
Joined: Jan 28, 2005 Posts: 1837 Location: Schnecksville, PA
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: Muslim Free Zone |
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Well said. All the best...
Gil
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Ominivision1 Super Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:52 pm Post subject: Re: Muslim Free Zone |
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Yup, I read about this and also heard she may be sued for discrimination..
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Elvis Super Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: Muslim Free Zone |
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Ominivision1 wrote: |
Yup, I read about this and also heard she may be sued for discrimination.. |
by whom??? on what grounds????
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Ominivision1 Super Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: Muslim Free Zone |
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Here is the link, also click the link at the bottom for the full story.
www.arktimes.com/Arkan...-customers
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PaulS Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:16 am Post subject: Re: Muslim Free Zone |
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As long as she has a sign up that says she reserves the right to refuse service to anyone she can pretty much do as she pleases. Her claim that Islam is not a religion won't stand up in the coutroom, it is already defined as a religion in the USA.
I don't know how she could tell if a Muslim followed Sharia Law unless she was serving bacon or pork sausage in less than full body attire, but I fully support her liberty to choose her customer base. Because it is a business open to the public she gave up her right to disallow all the people of any race, religion or single demographic onto her property.
If they don't follow the rules of the business then she can ask them to leave or have them removed by the cops.
That is one of the side effects of making a place public access.
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Elvis Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:36 am Post subject: Re: Muslim Free Zone |
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dhc4ever Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:46 am Post subject: Re: Muslim Free Zone |
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Nup.
Not 4 times a day, they'd move in.....
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:58 am Post subject: Re: Muslim Free Zone |
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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:25 am Post subject: Re: Muslim Free Zone |
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Thanks, Elvis, I haven't laughed this hard yet in the New Year!
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Bushmaster Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:37 am Post subject: Re: Muslim Free Zone |
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And THEY are saying that we are not "normal"??
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