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For the Aussies...Here we go again guys !!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:55 am    Post subject: Re: For the Aussies...Here we go again guys !!! Reply with quote

Maybe it's time that you told your government that you have rights that they can't mess with.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:10 pm    Post subject: Re: For the Aussies...Here we go again guys !!! Reply with quote

Thats the issue Paul, we dont have rights we have revokable permissions.
The government has a disarmament agenda as do the media and the great ignorant unwashed. They seem to think a firearm ban will suddenly fix the human condition of robbing and killing one another. More likely however they only want the government to have guns.
The out cry for stricter gun laws started again during the Lindt cafe hostage drama where a muslim wannabe terrorist out on bail for the murder of his wife and the sexual assult of a dozen women took 20 or so people hostage with a pump action sawn off shotgun. Now he didnt have a gun license, the pump action is a restricted firearm which sort of proved the existing firearm laws were ignored, as was assult, kid napping, murder and causing fear in a public place. The fix? More laws of course, after all criminals have to follow them too.
They keep up the mantra we "Dont want to go down the American road" in respect to guns and keep to the knibbled to death by ducks approach one new ban or law at a time.
The antis make a great deal out of any gun related crime, and the fact that we havent had a mass shooting since they banned semi auto anything, and pump action shotguns. My answer is neither has New Zealand who have acces to pumps, semi autos etc. They would get better use of our money enforcing the laws we already have and improving the mental health services
and putting a lid on illegal drugs and the crimes they promote.
I need a coffee, rant over....

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:40 pm    Post subject: Re: For the Aussies...Here we go again guys !!! Reply with quote

The problem with Australia is that the legislation dated back to the colonial days where most of the population are convicts and thus have no rights.
It is outdated but the government conveniently hold on to that power.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:13 pm    Post subject: Re: For the Aussies...Here we go again guys !!! Reply with quote

The idea of comparing the U.S. with Australia is around 300 million. The U.S. having over 320 million people and Australia having 24 million. 2015 census.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:10 pm    Post subject: Re: For the Aussies...Here we go again guys !!! Reply with quote

gelandangan wrote:
The problem with Australia is that the legislation dated back to the colonial days where most of the population are convicts and thus have no rights.
It is outdated but the government conveniently hold on to that power.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:32 am    Post subject: Re: For the Aussies...Here we go again guys !!! Reply with quote

Pete, Gelan and Pete...all totally correct guys.

The sooner the likes of NZ favourite export, Philip Alpers, and the rest of the Gun Control lobby step in front of a bus the better off we will be.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:29 am    Post subject: Re: For the Aussies...Here we go again guys !!! Reply with quote

do you want a ban on busses?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:53 am    Post subject: Re: For the Aussies...Here we go again guys !!! Reply with quote

Vince you roundem up.
I'll drive.........

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:59 am    Post subject: Re: For the Aussies...Here we go again guys !!! Reply with quote

dhc4ever wrote:
Vince you roundem up.
I'll drive.........

Jobs on mate

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:26 pm    Post subject: Re: For the Aussies...Here we go again guys !!! Reply with quote

Just start a letter campaign.
Every animal on earth has the right and the means to defend itself against its predators. You, as men and women are no different. The creator endowed you with the right to defend yourself and the means to defend yourself against criminals and tyrants is the free use of guns, of the same type that is in common use by the military. You can use the Magna Carta and several British bills of rights from the past. You have those rights - they are not privileges but rights that have been recognized before and are just as necessary today as when they were recognized many times in the past.

Use your British history against them.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:42 pm    Post subject: Re: For the Aussies...Here we go again guys !!! Reply with quote

Facts and history don't matter to them. Only to us.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 7:11 pm    Post subject: Re: For the Aussies...Here we go again guys !!! Reply with quote

Self/Home defense is not a legitimate reason to own or acquire a firearm here
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 7:16 pm    Post subject: Re: For the Aussies...Here we go again guys !!! Reply with quote

Oh really...

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:34 am    Post subject: Re: For the Aussies...Here we go again guys !!! Reply with quote

tikkat3 wrote:
Self/Home defense is not a legitimate reason to own or acquire a firearm here

Unfortunately Bushy, Tiks is 110% correct. In fact if you were silly enough to cite self defence as a reason chances are you would be black listed from having a firearms licence for quite some time.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 2:11 am    Post subject: Re: For the Aussies...Here we go again guys !!! Reply with quote

Yes really.
If you use greater force than the scum bag uses against you, you are legally toast.

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