HuntingNut
HuntingNut
   Login or Register
HomeCommunity ForumsPhoto AlbumsRegister
     
 

User Info

Welcome Anonymous


Membership:
Latest: RichardZ
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 1
Overall: 13126

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 323
BOT: 1
Total: 324
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Forums
02: Forums
03: Forums
04: Forums
05: Forums
06: Forums
07: Forums
08: Photo Albums
09: Forums
10: Forums
11: Forums
12: Forums
13: Forums
14: Forums
15: Home
16: Your Account
17: Forums
18: Forums
19: Home
20: Forums
21: Forums
22: Home
23: Forums
24: Forums
25: Forums
26: Forums
27: Forums
28: Forums
29: Home
30: Home
31: Home
32: Your Account
33: Home
34: Forums
35: Forums
36: Forums
37: Forums
38: Forums
39: Forums
40: Your Account
41: Forums
42: Photo Albums
43: Forums
44: Forums
45: Forums
46: Home
47: Forums
48: Your Account
49: Forums
50: Forums
51: Home
52: Forums
53: Home
54: Forums
55: Forums
56: Photo Albums
57: News
58: Forums
59: Forums
60: Forums
61: Your Account
62: Home
63: Your Account
64: Forums
65: Forums
66: Forums
67: Home
68: Forums
69: Forums
70: Forums
71: Forums
72: Photo Albums
73: Forums
74: Your Account
75: Photo Albums
76: Your Account
77: Forums
78: Forums
79: Forums
80: Home
81: Forums
82: Forums
83: Forums
84: Forums
85: Forums
86: Forums
87: Forums
88: Forums
89: Your Account
90: Home
91: Forums
92: Forums
93: Home
94: Your Account
95: Your Account
96: Photo Albums
97: Photo Albums
98: Home
99: Home
100: Forums
101: Your Account
102: Forums
103: Forums
104: Forums
105: Forums
106: Forums
107: Forums
108: Forums
109: Forums
110: Forums
111: Forums
112: Forums
113: Forums
114: Home
115: Forums
116: Forums
117: Forums
118: Photo Albums
119: Home
120: Forums
121: Forums
122: Home
123: Forums
124: Forums
125: Forums
126: Forums
127: Forums
128: Forums
129: Forums
130: Forums
131: Photo Albums
132: Forums
133: Forums
134: Photo Albums
135: Forums
136: Forums
137: Forums
138: Home
139: Home
140: Home
141: Forums
142: Forums
143: Forums
144: Your Account
145: Forums
146: Forums
147: Forums
148: Home
149: Photo Albums
150: Your Account
151: Your Account
152: Forums
153: Forums
154: Forums
155: Forums
156: Photo Albums
157: Forums
158: Forums
159: Your Account
160: Forums
161: Forums
162: Home
163: Forums
164: Forums
165: Forums
166: Forums
167: Forums
168: Home
169: Forums
170: Forums
171: Forums
172: Photo Albums
173: Home
174: Your Account
175: Forums
176: Forums
177: Forums
178: Forums
179: Forums
180: Photo Albums
181: Forums
182: Forums
183: Forums
184: Forums
185: Forums
186: Forums
187: Forums
188: Forums
189: Forums
190: Your Account
191: Forums
192: Forums
193: Forums
194: Forums
195: Your Account
196: Forums
197: Photo Albums
198: Forums
199: Forums
200: Home
201: Forums
202: Forums
203: Forums
204: Home
205: Forums
206: Forums
207: Forums
208: Forums
209: Home
210: Home
211: Forums
212: Forums
213: Forums
214: Forums
215: Forums
216: Forums
217: Your Account
218: Photo Albums
219: Your Account
220: Home
221: Photo Albums
222: Forums
223: Forums
224: Your Account
225: Home
226: Forums
227: Your Account
228: Forums
229: Forums
230: Forums
231: Forums
232: Photo Albums
233: Forums
234: Your Account
235: Photo Albums
236: Forums
237: Forums
238: Forums
239: Forums
240: Forums
241: Forums
242: Forums
243: Forums
244: Forums
245: Forums
246: Treasury
247: Forums
248: Forums
249: Your Account
250: Home
251: Photo Albums
252: Home
253: Your Account
254: Forums
255: Forums
256: Your Account
257: Home
258: Forums
259: Home
260: Your Account
261: Home
262: Forums
263: Your Account
264: Forums
265: Forums
266: Forums
267: Forums
268: Forums
269: Forums
270: Forums
271: Your Account
272: Forums
273: Forums
274: Home
275: Your Account
276: Forums
277: Forums
278: Home
279: Forums
280: Photo Albums
281: Forums
282: Forums
283: Forums
284: Forums
285: Photo Albums
286: Forums
287: Forums
288: Forums
289: Your Account
290: Forums
291: Photo Albums
292: Photo Albums
293: Forums
294: Forums
295: Forums
296: Home
297: Forums
298: Forums
299: Photo Albums
300: Home
301: Photo Albums
302: Forums
303: Your Account
304: Home
305: Forums
306: Your Account
307: Forums
308: Photo Albums
309: Forums
310: Forums
311: Your Account
312: Forums
313: Your Account
314: Photo Albums
315: Forums
316: Forums
317: Forums
318: Forums
319: Your Account
320: Photo Albums
321: Forums
322: Forums
323: Forums
  BOT:
01: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
 

Coppermine Stats
Photo Albums
 Albums: 308
 Pictures: 2451
  · Views: 820723
  · Votes: 1316
  · Comments: 86
 

45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one?
Discussion regarding the reloading of ammunition and tuning of loads for accuracy
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » Reloading Ammunition

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
slimjim
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 16, 2009
Posts: 8314
Location: Fort Worth TX

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:55 pm    Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? Reply with quote

Aloys, Down Under is a long way to throw a stone.

_________________
"To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." - Theodore Roosevelt

"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Elvis
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 9239
Location: south island New Zealand

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:29 pm    Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? Reply with quote

Slimjim.....bottom line at this stage is I dont know what I will need,subsonic wont give me anything except less noise ,if the pressure to get it is higher than a 13-1500fps load well then the faster load will be used .

_________________
You shot it You pluck it !
Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers!
Back to top
View user's profile
slimjim
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 16, 2009
Posts: 8314
Location: Fort Worth TX

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:48 am    Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? Reply with quote

With minimum published loads of Varget, I was getting in the 1300-1500 fps velocity range. Just had unburnt powder granules left in the bore.

_________________
"To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." - Theodore Roosevelt

"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Elvis
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 9239
Location: south island New Zealand

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:56 pm    Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? Reply with quote

maybe the extra few inches might help with that....should end up with about 23" of rifling....

_________________
You shot it You pluck it !
Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers!
Back to top
View user's profile
slimjim
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 16, 2009
Posts: 8314
Location: Fort Worth TX

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:41 am    Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? Reply with quote

Elvis wrote:
https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.nz/f53/gess-what-i%60m-doing-43613/

THIS is my barrel being made.

Elvis, still hard to tell this is part of a firearm. Any pictures of the finished product?

_________________
"To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." - Theodore Roosevelt

"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Elvis
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 9239
Location: south island New Zealand

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:55 pm    Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? Reply with quote

not yet.......

_________________
You shot it You pluck it !
Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers!
Back to top
View user's profile
Elvis
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 9239
Location: south island New Zealand

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:42 pm    Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? Reply with quote

chamber cut...twice,we not entirely happy first time as was just a wee smidgin loose.2nd time around she snug without issue or wiggle room,outside being turned soon..... Very Happy Very Happy meanwhile I found some sulphur in the back shed and some willow down the creek....now to purchase some salt petre...then we might have some Scratch low pressure/low velocity INTERESTING loads to fire LOL.
any one else played with home rolled black powder????

_________________
You shot it You pluck it !
Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers!
Back to top
View user's profile
PaulS
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Feb 18, 2006
Posts: 4330
Location: South-Eastern Washington - the State

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:49 pm    Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? Reply with quote

Yep! I played with the black stuff a lot. If you want good black powder you need to grind your charcoal into dust - very fine dust. The same with the saltpetre too. Blend it in a ball mill. Your cleaning drum will work but you need some 3/8 and 1/4 inch ball bearings to do the grinding. You can use water or alcohol to keep it moist but I much prefer the alcohol because it evaporates faster and doesn't affect the burn rate. Water at the wrong time will make it burn faster than it should after it dries out. Once it has gone through the ball mill pull it out and spoon it onto your screen. Work it through the screen with the plastic or rubber spoon and collect it on brown paper. When it is dry you can screen it for size and test a small sample.

Don't make a lot at one time. It is best to have small amounts go off that it is to have a big batch go off.
Weigh everything as carefully as you can. You can adjust the charcoal and saltpetre amounts a bit to change the burn rate but the sulphur is best left alone. Its only job is to make the powder easier to ignite.

For my use, (rocket fuel) I found that 74%saltpetre, 16% charcoal and 10% sulphur was best. If I raised the saltpetre it burned hotter but slower and burned out nozzles. With explosives it is usually better to have more fuel with the oxidizer as it assures a better burn with more energy and less heat.

_________________
Paul
__________________
Speer, Lyman, Hodgdon, Sierra, and Hornady = reliable loading data
So and So's pages on the internet = NOT reliable loading data
Always check data against manuals
NEVER exceed maximum listed loads
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Elvis
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 9239
Location: south island New Zealand

PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:08 am    Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? Reply with quote

thanks for that Paul.....will be slowly slowly catchy monkey on this one.

_________________
You shot it You pluck it !
Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers!
Back to top
View user's profile
Vince
Site Admin
Site Admin


Joined: May 25, 2005
Posts: 15701
Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA

PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:14 am    Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? Reply with quote

Sounds awesome Elvis. I'll be looking forward to seeing your results mate.

I don't wanna Jonah ya mate, be very careful when making the black...it can be a bit unforgiving.

_________________
Cheers, Vince Cheers

Illegitimi non carborundum
(Never let the bastards grind you down)

Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.

"Nulla Si Fa Senza Volonta."
(Without Commitment, Nothing Gets Done)
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address MSN Messenger Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Elvis
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 9239
Location: south island New Zealand

PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:21 pm    Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? Reply with quote

Ive heard this......so have looked carefully and seen that doing it "wet" appears to be the way to go. mill components seperately(mill/petistal n mortar/dumbell in bag) then wet the saltpetre and add others to it,apparently its fairly unvolitile while wet so should be fine.

_________________
You shot it You pluck it !
Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers!
Back to top
View user's profile
Elvis
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 9239
Location: south island New Zealand

PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? Reply with quote

wet the saltpetre...boil it with stale urine is the correct procedure I read!!!!!
my BBQ and fish smoker seems to have made OK charcoal and the 2lb sledgehammer head and a meat dish sems to work ok to grind it into fine powder.....
web.archive.org/web/20...index.html

the link might be of interest to Scratch you lot/other like minded wierdos Very Happy

_________________
You shot it You pluck it !
Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers!
Back to top
View user's profile
Elvis
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 9239
Location: south island New Zealand

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:18 pm    Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? Reply with quote

made up a small batch today.took lots of mixing so will work harder on it before combining next lot. waiting for it to dry before will be able to find out if its ok.
question for you clever chaps

if the powder Ive made is as said and is of high volume for weight,the amount I can fit into case probably wont allow 70 grns to fit so will I in effect have a safe,low pressure,lower velocity black powder load????
Ive read the calvery used a .45/60 load as reduced recoil was better off horseback
I wont know what weight I can fit till it dries but assuming 30-35grns behind a 395 grn projectile......

_________________
You shot it You pluck it !
Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers!
Back to top
View user's profile
Elvis
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 9239
Location: south island New Zealand

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? Reply with quote

also along similar lines

if a fella took a primed case (straight walled) and inserted it in a break open rifle or shotgun,closed action on case....could it/would it be feasble to then "muzzle load" it...in effect making a cap lock that was easy to clean and very easy to unload if not used or had malfunction.....
yes Ive got too much time on my hands and the BP bug.

_________________
You shot it You pluck it !
Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers!
Back to top
View user's profile
Pumpkinslinger
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Sep 22, 2007
Posts: 5001
Location: NC foothills

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:57 pm    Post subject: Re: 45/70 Low Velocity load - anyone have a good one? Reply with quote

Elvis, keep in mind that you don't want air space between bullet and black powder. I bulged the barrel on a muzzle loader like that once...

_________________
Mike

"I ain't no better than anybody else, and there ain't nobody better than me!" Ma Kettle
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » Reloading Ammunition
Page 3 of 7
All times are GMT - 7 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Valid CSS! Valid HTML 4.01!
Click to check if this page is realy HTML 4.01 compliant for speed :)

All logos and trademarks in this site are property of HuntingNut.com.
The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2011 by HuntingNut.com
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy

.: Upgraded to DragonFly 9.2 by *Dizfunkshunal* :.