Remington Model 700 SPS DM

Weinbender · Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:27 am Post subject: Remington Model 700 SPS DM

I am planning on purchasing this rifle next year in either a .308 or 300 win mag.

any suggestions or comments on the rifle and what caliber would be best. take in stock that i already have a 300 and recoil doesnt scare me much!

thank you in advance for your input.
Daniel

tracker · Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: Remington Model 700 SPS DM

Partner, if you already have the 300, why are buying another one?

Not that there's such a thing as too many guns mind you, but both will get 'er done for any big game hunting you'll be doing in our part of the world. I don't think you'll find too many negative responses about Remington, either.

FALPhil · Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:17 pm Post subject: Re: Remington Model 700 SPS DM

I'm with Tracker. The 308Win is an extremely versatile cartridge and very easy to shoot accurately. If you can get the DM in the LTR version instead of the SPS, you will have a lightweight precision instrument that will rapidly become one of your favorites.

My main issue with the SPS rifles is the stock. They are just a little too flimsy to stand up to much activity away from the bench. By the time you put a quality stock on one, you have spent as much as you would have on a PSS or LTR (ask me how I know Sad

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Weinbender · Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: Remington Model 700 SPS DM

tracker wrote:

Partner, if you already have the 300, why are buying another one?

Not that there's such a thing as too many guns mind you, but both will get 'er done for any big game hunting you'll be doing in our part of the world. I don't think you'll find too many negative responses about Remington, either.

Well, i have a Savage Model 111 which is not the greatest rifle around i think. I'll use that one for bench shooting and just for fun but i also want to have a serious rifle. a gun that can go through a lot. and i heard and read that Remington Model 700 has one of the best actions in the world. and cost is a little bit of the problem for now too.

Daniel

Weinbender · Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: Remington Model 700 SPS DM

FALPhil wrote:

I'm with Tracker. The 308Win is an extremely versatile cartridge and very easy to shoot accurately. If you can get the DM in the LTR version instead of the SPS, you will have a lightweight precision instrument that will rapidly become one of your favorites.

My main issue with the SPS rifles is the stock. They are just a little too flimsy to stand up to much activity away from the bench. By the time you put a quality stock on one, you have spent as much as you would have on a PSS or LTR (ask me how I know Sad

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Ill take your word for it and do some more research. thanks!

FALPhil · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:21 am Post subject: Re: Remington Model 700 SPS DM

Weinbender wrote:

Well, i have a Savage Model 111 which is not the greatest rifle around i think.

Daniel,

Don't write off the Savage 111 just yet. I am in the process of building a precision rifle in 300 WM on a Stevens 200 actions which is the same action as your Savage. I fully expect it to be sub m.o.a. out to 600 yards when I am through. The trick to the Savage action is headspacing. Acquire a barrel nut wrench and a go-gage for your cartridge, loosen the barrel nut and set the barrel for minimum headspace. Then test with either Black Hills Match or Federal Match as a benchmark. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.

Weinbender · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:00 am Post subject: Re: Remington Model 700 SPS DM

FALPhil wrote:

Weinbender wrote:

Well, i have a Savage Model 111 which is not the greatest rifle around i think.

Daniel,

Don't write off the Savage 111 just yet. I am in the process of building a precision rifle in 300 WM on a Stevens 200 actions which is the same action as your Savage. I fully expect it to be sub m.o.a. out to 600 yards when I am through. The trick to the Savage action is headspacing. Acquire a barrel nut wrench and a go-gage for your cartridge, loosen the barrel nut and set the barrel for minimum headspace. Then test with either Black Hills Match or Federal Match as a benchmark. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.

thanks for the advice but i didnt understand a thing you said! Very Happy

, i know my way around guns when it comes to shooting and maintaining but anything u just said completely blows my mind. Can you try to explain a little more? thanks.

Weinbender · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:04 am Post subject: Re: Remington Model 700 SPS DM

and my Savage 111 is not bad but i know from experience that when u buy a cheap gun, then ull get a cheap gun. but i am sure that up to 200 yards this rifle will shoot just great if i do my part.

FALPhil · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:53 pm Post subject: Re: Remington Model 700 SPS DM

Weinbender wrote:

thanks for the advice but i didnt understand a thing you said! Very Happy

, i know my way around guns when it comes to shooting and maintaining but anything u just said completely blows my mind. Can you try to explain a little more? thanks.

Daniel,

If you look at your Savage, where the barrel enters the receiver, there is a piece of metal, about an inch long, with several flutes in line with the bore around its circumference. Each flute is about 1.5mm wide. This is the barrel nut.

The way a Savage is assembled, the barrel has twice as much thread as it needs to screw into the receiver. So the barrel is screwed into the receiver, and the barrel nut screws down the threaded barrel shank, until it butts up against the receiver. It works kind of like a lock nut. This is the same way the M2 50 BMG browning machine gun is headspaced.

So, to get minimum headspace in a Savage (and theoretically better accuracy), you screw the barrel in part way, load a "go" gage, like you would a cartridge and close the bolt, screw the barrel in until it won't turn any more, which means that it has screwed down on the gage and is at minimum tolerance, then tighten the barrel nut, and you are ready to go.

Many people I know have "accurized" their Savages this way with spectacular results. And "inexpensive" is not the same as "cheap".

hunterjoe21 · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: Remington Model 700 SPS DM

FalPhil,

It couldn't have been unexplained more exellently.

Just joking ......

FALPhil · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: Remington Model 700 SPS DM

hunterjoe21 wrote:

FalPhil,

It couldn't have been unexplained more exellently.

Just joking ......

I wish I had pictures. Sad

Weinbender · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:41 am Post subject: Re: Remington Model 700 SPS DM

FALPhil wrote:

Weinbender wrote:

thanks for the advice but i didnt understand a thing you said! Very Happy

, i know my way around guns when it comes to shooting and maintaining but anything u just said completely blows my mind. Can you try to explain a little more? thanks.

Daniel,

If you look at your Savage, where the barrel enters the receiver, there is a piece of metal, about an inch long, with several flutes in line with the bore around its circumference. Each flute is about 1.5mm wide. This is the barrel nut.

The way a Savage is assembled, the barrel has twice as much thread as it needs to screw into the receiver. So the barrel is screwed into the receiver, and the barrel nut screws down the threaded barrel shank, until it butts up against the receiver. It works kind of like a lock nut. This is the same way the M2 50 BMG browning machine gun is headspaced.

So, to get minimum headspace in a Savage (and theoretically better accuracy), you screw the barrel in part way, load a "go" gage, like you would a cartridge and close the bolt, screw the barrel in until it won't turn any more, which means that it has screwed down on the gage and is at minimum tolerance, then tighten the barrel nut, and you are ready to go.

Many people I know have "accurized" their Savages this way with spectacular results. And "inexpensive" is not the same as "cheap".

Thank You very much! now i get it, ill see if i can get a barrel nut wrench and gogo gauge at S.I.R.
once ive done that ill put a Leupold scope on it and maybe ill see if i can get a cheap Harris Bipod somewhere.

again thank you everyone for your input and help!

Daniel