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Vince Site Admin
Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 15704 Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: Where to aim? |
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Gelan The Impotent wrote: |
1. Where is considered the right aiming area for a four legged animal if they have their buttock facing you square on?
2. Where to aim if they are squarely facing you with their head on the way?
3. Is it true that ultra slow caliber like the .300 whisper would kill better than a fast 308 win? If it is, could I load my 308 to be ultra slow as well? would it bother the accuracy? or would it be dangeorous (due to the large empty space in the cartridge shell)?
4. why does the sun rises from the East?
Thank you in advance.
Gelan. |
Where is the best area to aim? Well I start off by aiming in the general direction of the critter I wanna shoot.
1. A Texas Heart Shot is not nice...not nice at all. I have always been taught that that particular area is for EXIT...not ENTRY !! Seriously though, if you are close enough, and if your rifle and load...and YOU...are good enough, then tap the critter in the back of the head at about 3500 fps. Apart from that, wait for a better more humane shot.
2. Centre of the seen mass mate. I would hit it at the base of the neck where the neck joins the chest.
3. Can't won't comment...don't own either.
4. The Sun does not rise from the East....it is first noticeable when I throw the covers back and roll over in bed, then as I get up, so does the Sun.
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gelandangan Super Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:13 am Post subject: Re: Where to aim? |
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Did you not meant Gelan The Omnipotent?
I sort of worry when people mention potency..
I meant, I am sure you are not questioning the straightness of my rifle barrel?
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gelandangan Super Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: Where to aim? |
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phill21 wrote: |
. If they run off i just start the stalk again i think for me its the stalk more than shooting the animal?????? |
My sentiment exactly.. most of my shots are close up shots..
I like to stalk as close as possible before I shoot, that leave a lot less chance of wounding.
I love to stalk up a goat herd and scream at them.. Yeah (and vince is worried about that too..
Philly - lets not talk about my barrel it made me feel a bit nervous and unsure.
I don't want to try it here where it doesn't belong
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Vince Site Admin
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:02 pm Post subject: Re: Where to aim? |
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But Gelan....hasn't your barrel got a blockage?? No wait up....you cleared that didn't you.
Its very interesting to read where everyone feels the best aimpoint on an animal is. I've heard and read of just about every conceivable point on a critter from the head down to behind the shoulder.
I think that a well placed shot at any point between the head and just behind the shoulder should....SHOULD...do the job. One of the guys (Foreign I think) said that if you leave the heart alone then you will have it pumping out a nice blood trail that is easy to follow...well I reckon it behoves us as good hunters to be better than that. We should be "aiming" to do the humane thing and that is one shot...one instant kill.
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Bushmaster Super Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:50 am Post subject: Re: Where to aim? |
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I must be able to get the heart and at least one lung or I will pass unless I'm close enough for a good head shot...
Try this. This works for rifle and bow hunters too...
www.rubsnscrapes.com
Click on "Shot placement and anatomy of a White Tail deer"
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:04 am Post subject: Re: Where to aim? |
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I always figured that you wanted to bust the heart or the vessels leading to/from it to help prevent adrenaline from being pumped through the body, possibly affecting the flavor and tenderness of the meat. What are the opinions on this?
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Bushmaster Super Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:10 am Post subject: Re: Where to aim? |
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Agreed...Hence my preference for heart/lung shot...
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whittling Super Member
Joined: Apr 21, 2008 Posts: 586 Location: Texas (home state is Mass)
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:27 am Post subject: Re: Where to aim? |
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Heart / Lung . Neck is best , but to easy to miss
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MagnumManiac Rookie Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:06 am Post subject: Re: Where to aim? |
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DallanC wrote: |
I immediately cancelled a magazine subscription where they advocated the "Texas heart shot" as a good shot when the animal is facing directly away.
-DallanC |
I will always take the 'texas heart shot' over any other shot on a running deer. Period.
If my 375 Weatherby can't get the bullet into the vitals from the rear, then something is majorly wrong!
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Bushmaster Super Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:07 am Post subject: Re: Where to aim? |
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Hi Magnummaniac...Welcome to this fine site, where we discuss in a most friendly, way our views (well most of the time anyway)...Get a beer and grab a stump...Join right in...
With that said...I will never take a "texas heart shot"...I've seen what it does to deer by other hunters that have made this shot. I really do not want to field dress a rear gut shot or gut shot deer. Not to mention what it does to the meat. I will pass on any deer that is going directly away from me. Quartering away? Not a problem...
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PaulS Super Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:00 am Post subject: Re: Where to aim? |
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The only shots to take on a deer with it back to me are head and neck. I hunt for food and I rarely eat sh!t.
(yes sometimes I say things from memory and then find out how good my memory is - then I eat it)
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PaulS Super Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:53 pm Post subject: Re: Where to aim? |
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Bushy, I have too much trouble keeping track of my mistakes - I don't worry about the rest of you.....
I figure if we all do that the world will eventually improve.
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