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Hunting and discussion with Muzzle Loaders, Archery and other Primitive weapons
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:19 am    Post subject: New hunting TOOL! Reply with quote

This is my New PSE Viper Cross bow pkg. I got this to replace my OLD Barnett cross bow. I gave the Ol Barnett to my Son. Smile
Hope this is a good choice, I wanted a Ten Point but could not see spending almost $1300.00 for a cross bow.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:49 pm    Post subject: Re: New hunting TOOL! Reply with quote
Wish you could hunt with a crossbow in Mass.. Good luck and I hope you get a 190 non-typical with it this year .

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:26 pm    Post subject: Re: New hunting TOOL! Reply with quote
Can only hunt with them during gun season or Muzzle loader season here in michigan Sad . I wish they would allow them during our regular archery season or give us a CrossBow only season.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 4:54 am    Post subject: Re: New hunting TOOL! Reply with quote
How does it shoot crackshot do ya no it's speed . I got rid of my Horton a couple years ago Sad I'm lookin for another one.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:58 am    Post subject: Re: New hunting TOOL! Reply with quote
My chrono registers 287 FPS as an average. It keeps all the bolts in a cluster you can put your hand around @ 30yds with the scope, rested on the hood of my truck.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:20 am    Post subject: Re: New hunting TOOL! Reply with quote
Crackshot wrote:
My chrono registers 287 FPS as an average. It keeps all the bolts in a cluster you can put your hand around @ 30yds with the scope, rested on the hood of my truck.

Sweet Very Happy I'll keep that in mind when I get enough cash to get one Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:39 pm    Post subject: Re: New hunting TOOL! Reply with quote
I did splurge and purchase a rope cocking devise also, Cocking this thing more than 5 or 6 times can get rough. The advertised velocity is 260 FPS, So the true velocity was a pleasant supprise. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:11 pm    Post subject: Re: New hunting TOOL! Reply with quote
Crackshot, that's kinda neat! What does a bolt weigh?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:01 pm    Post subject: Re: New hunting TOOL! Reply with quote
Ive never weighed one to be honest. I'll get back to ya on that.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:10 pm    Post subject: Re: New hunting TOOL! Reply with quote
I just picked up the Horton Summit HD. It's pretty nice it's not as nice as the one I use to have ( that will teach me Sad ) it shoots pretty good for the price $247.00 and thats with 3 bolts and quiver Very Happy . Lookin forward to trying it out. Pumkinslinger these bolts are 20" long, aluminum and weigh 338 grains.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: New hunting TOOL! Reply with quote
Thanks Joe! I was wondering what kind of energy and momentum crossbow bolts had. I realize that they kill by cutting but I'm just curious. 338 grains at 287 ft/sec would be about 62 ftlbs of energy and 0.43 slug ft/sec.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:15 pm    Post subject: Re: New hunting TOOL! Reply with quote
Pumpkinslinger wrote:
Thanks Joe! I was wondering what kind of energy and momentum crossbow bolts had. I realize that they kill by cutting but I'm just curious. 338 grains at 287 ft/sec would be about 62 ftlbs of energy and 0.43 slug ft/sec.

Sorry Embarassed I forgot to mention there 338 grains without a field point or broadhead.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 5:05 am    Post subject: Re: New hunting TOOL! Reply with quote
So if we add 100 grains for a point... About 80 ftlbs and 0.56 slug ft/sec. By the way, that's about the same momentum as a baseball thrown by a Little Leaguer.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:04 am    Post subject: Re: New hunting TOOL! Reply with quote
Thats not to bad when you consider that energy is focused all on a razor sharp point with 2 or more razor sharp blades.
My bolts are 411gr with Tekan G5 broad heads attached.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Re: New hunting TOOL! Reply with quote
Pumpkinslinger wrote:
So if we add 100 grains for a point... About 80 ftlbs and 0.56 slug ft/sec. By the way, that's about the same momentum as a baseball thrown by a Little Leaguer.

Put a trocar tip and 4 razor blades on that baseball and see if you want to catch it.....

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