View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
wiersy111 Super Member
Joined: May 13, 2009 Posts: 2376 Location: Central Minnesota
|
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:52 pm Post subject: IMR vs Hodgen Powders |
|
I have been handloading ever since I was old enough to pull the level on the press for my grandfather. All I can remember him or my father using was IMR powders, I still use loads he cooked up when I was a kid. Recently the new elected administration has caused a run on reloading supllies. Very often the IMR powders are sold out as fast as they come in. But the Hodgen powders are there. In the books most of my loads are also listed in Hodgen powders but there is one grain difference. What are the differences between Hodgen and IMR? Aren't they made by the same comany?
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
Vince Site Admin
Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 15704 Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
wiersy111 Super Member
Joined: May 13, 2009 Posts: 2376 Location: Central Minnesota
|
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 8:24 pm Post subject: Re: IMR vs Hodgen Powders |
|
Thanks I always stay within the manufacturers specs. It seems odd that the numbers are the same for example IMR 4350 and H4350. I'll just have to buy some and try my pet loads and adjust them as needed. Sounds like a good reason to shoot some more!
_________________ A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America " for an amount of "up to and including my life."
US ARMY RETIRED
The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.
Being "Over the Hill" is much better then being under it! |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Dimitri Super Member
Joined: Nov 25, 2005 Posts: 5944
|
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: IMR vs Hodgen Powders |
|
Hodgdon buys powder from the Australia (by Thales/ADI) as Vince mentioned. While IMR now sources its powder in Canada (by Expro Tech) it used to be made by Dupont.
Although both companies started off using military surplus powder under the same common numbers you see in reloading books, when they developed their own it was not identical.
Dimitri
_________________ A thousand hills, but no birds in flight, ten thousand paths, with no people's tracks. A lonely boat, a straw-hatted old man, fishing alone in the cold river snow. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
chambered221 Super Member
Joined: Aug 17, 2007 Posts: 3455 Location: Lost for good !!!
|
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 3:31 am Post subject: Re: IMR vs Hodgen Powders |
|
It should be noted that Accurate Powder also makes a 4350 !!!
At one time Hodgdon and IMR were two separate companies, now they are owned by the same people who also own Winchester Powder.
All brands of 4350 is essentially the same thing (it’s chemical make-up) with a slightly different burn rate resulting from the differences in how it’s processed.
Be sure to follow the data from the manufacture you choose.
_________________ Ask as many people needed, sooner or later your question will be answered the way you want it answered !!!
A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.
~George Washington |
|
Back to top |
|
|
SingleShotLover Super Member
Joined: Dec 26, 2007 Posts: 1005 Location: Illinois
|
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 4:55 am Post subject: Re: IMR vs Hodgen Powders |
|
All good advice and info. There are a lot of powders that bear similar names and are close in characteristics, but they do not have identical burning rates. Since burning rates are a strong component of pressure, be sure to not interchange loading data between similar powders. Make sure to use only powder-specific information.
_________________ If you can't hit it with one, you probably can't with two either!
The biggest problem with a closed mind is that it never seems to come with a closed mouth.
SSL |
|
Back to top |
|
|
K.W. Super Member
Joined: Mar 19, 2007 Posts: 348 Location: Finland
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
K.W. Super Member
Joined: Mar 19, 2007 Posts: 348 Location: Finland
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
shrpshtrjoe Super Red Neck Member
Joined: Jan 26, 2005 Posts: 2965 Location: Maryland
|
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: IMR vs Hodgen Powders |
|
I have used both with great success Imr powders are just fine but I pretty much have gone with Hodgdon extreme powders for quite awhile now. They meter great and are not temp sensitive.
Joe
_________________ "MOLON LABE"
P E T A
People Eating Tasty Animals |
|
Back to top |
|
|
DKAllen Member
Joined: Jun 14, 2009 Posts: 27 Location: Southeast, NC
|
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: IMR vs Hodgen Powders |
|
I use Hodgdon and IMR and some Reloder RL 15, RL 19 & RL 22, all are very good powders and get the job done. All are a little bit different.
_________________ Turn Adversity Into Advantage |
|
Back to top |
|
|
fnuser Super Member
Joined: Dec 23, 2008 Posts: 914 Location: S.W. Missouri, U.S.A.
|
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: IMR vs Hodgen Powders |
|
Ditto on the RL stuff I love it when I find a load that works with that stuff, I don't know why but for stick powder it meters well.
_________________ N.R.A. Endowment Member |
|
Back to top |
|
|
chambered221 Super Member
Joined: Aug 17, 2007 Posts: 3455 Location: Lost for good !!!
|
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:46 am Post subject: Re: IMR vs Hodgen Powders |
|
Don't care for the RL powders !!!
I will however highly recommend RL22 in a 6mm Remington with 95 or 100 grain bullets.
_________________ Ask as many people needed, sooner or later your question will be answered the way you want it answered !!!
A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.
~George Washington |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Joe Boleo Super Member
Joined: Dec 25, 2006 Posts: 427 Location: Pennsylvania
|
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:14 am Post subject: Re: IMR vs Hodgen Powders |
|
The local gun shops are sold out of IMR powders, but Hodgdon is always left on the shelves. I bought some H4895 and H4350 and will give them a try. Take care...
Joe
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
wncchester Member
Joined: Apr 08, 2006 Posts: 160
|
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:46 am Post subject: Re: IMR vs Hodgen Powders |
|
"What are the differences between Hodgen and IMR? Aren't they made by the same comany"
They are different, they are made in differenct places.
They are both owned by the same people but they are no more the same than Chevy is the same as Caddy even tho they are both owned and operated by the US Gov., with Obamma serving as the CEO for both.
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
wiersy111 Super Member
Joined: May 13, 2009 Posts: 2376 Location: Central Minnesota
|
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:56 am Post subject: Re: IMR vs Hodgen Powders |
|
Different burn rates. If you look at the load data there is usually a grain or two different in the loads.
_________________ A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America " for an amount of "up to and including my life."
US ARMY RETIRED
The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.
Being "Over the Hill" is much better then being under it! |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|