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Aloysius Super Member
Joined: Nov 03, 2009 Posts: 2438 Location: B., Belgium
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: Bullet Casting |
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In my opinion if you want to go faster than 1500 fps, you'll need extra hard bullets, good lube and gas checks to avoid leading. So go for bigger calibers and heavy bullets for energy and avoid the need for speed.
In my part of the world, gas checks are hard to find. I only have Hornady gas checks for a Saeco bullet of 180grs in .308.
For handguns I've never used gas checks. When you need speed, go for a jacketed bullet or a leadless.
And there is always the one between: look at the copper plated bullets as produced bij H&N. They also give reloading data for very reduced loads. They shoot rather good till 100 m, but I still didn't try them on game.
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wiersy111 Super Member
Joined: May 13, 2009 Posts: 2376 Location: Central Minnesota
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: Bullet Casting |
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I was thinking of a small 4 or 5 inch cast iron skillet that I know is around here someplace if my wife didn't throw it away. But I will try to find a lead melting pot the next time I get to town.
I want to cast bullet that are going to expand good when used on game. The majority will get shot through paper or at a gong. I am a firm believer in shooting what you hunt with. Expansion energy and accuracy are more important then speed to me.
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Aloysius Super Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:27 am Post subject: Re: Bullet Casting |
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Wiersy, don't worry too much for expansion. It's common knowledge that lead doesn't part that easy + even when you make it as hard as possible, it will expand more than a jacketed bullet.
And in my opinion: speed can give energy and nice balistics to a bullet, but weight and low speed will easier transfer its energy to the game. And when less energy is lost after the animal is hit, you also need less energy to start.
Example: look at your 357 RM. When you shoot at a piece of wood with a lead .38 Spl WC or SWC and compare the damage with a real hot loaded .357 RM jacketed bullet.
But making myself as much as possible the things needed for hunting is also my hobby... and getting olders means also it's harder to find next challenge. So one of the goals for this year is to develop and test lead bullets in hunting loads. My friends will think I'm nuts...
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wiersy111 Super Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:17 am Post subject: Re: Bullet Casting |
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_________________ A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America " for an amount of "up to and including my life."
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The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.
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fnuser Super Member
Joined: Dec 23, 2008 Posts: 914 Location: S.W. Missouri, U.S.A.
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:31 pm Post subject: Re: Bullet Casting |
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I am fortunate enough to have a plumber for a hunting buddy and he brings home all kind of lead from remodel jobs.
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wiersy111 Super Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:02 pm Post subject: Re: Bullet Casting |
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I'm screwed in that department all of my buddies get stuff from me around here.
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fnuser Super Member
Joined: Dec 23, 2008 Posts: 914 Location: S.W. Missouri, U.S.A.
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: Bullet Casting |
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well; that happens to me sometimes too.
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wiersy111 Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: Bullet Casting |
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Picked up about 250 pounds of wheel weights so far, a cast iron pot, a couple lead ladles, and misc other household items all for little or nothing. I have to make a trip to the VA tomorrow and it happens a couple of my favorite sport stores are only a mile away from there. I will hopefully get the Lyman manual there. I don't know if they carry molds or not.
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Elvis Super Member
Joined: Jul 27, 2008 Posts: 9239 Location: south island New Zealand
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: Bullet Casting |
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250lbs = alot of big boooms!!! I guess you wont run out in a hurry.
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 5001 Location: NC foothills
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: Bullet Casting |
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Lyman has a new cast bullet manual coming out this week I think. 4th edition
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wiersy111 Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: Bullet Casting |
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I'm hoping to pickup the 3rd and new 4th editions.
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wiersy111 Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: Bullet Casting |
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gelandangan Super Member
Joined: May 07, 2006 Posts: 6396 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:21 pm Post subject: Re: Bullet Casting |
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Just make sure you mix em up well.
That way you can be sure of all your bullet quality, rather than batch depended quality.
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wiersy111 Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: Bullet Casting |
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Still considering that 500gr mold. Tough decision for a newbie.
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gelandangan Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:37 pm Post subject: Re: Bullet Casting |
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I found it easier to cast larger bullets than smaller ones..
So there.. did that nudge you over the fence?
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