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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:15 pm    Post subject: Just shopping around Reply with quote

I was just on GunBroker and one of the sellers had this posted (I removed the name of the dealer) he's a little bent;

ATTENTION: IF YOU RESIDE IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, DO NOT BID ON THIS AUCTION. YOUR BID WILL NOT BE HONORED.

EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, xxxxx xxx xxxxxxxx, LLC HAS CEASED DELIVERY OF ALL FIREARMS, FIREARMS PARTS AND AMMUNITION TO ALL POLICE DEPARTMENTS, POLICE OFFICERS AND RESIDENTS OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE RESIDENTS OF, WHAT HAS BECOME THE PEOPLES REPUBLIK of KALIFORNIA, BECOME ANGRY ENOUGH, AND GROW ENOUGH COURAGE, TO REMOVE FROM OFFICE THE SOCIALIST POLITICIANS WHO PASSED SECTIONS 12072(F)(1) & 12083(C)(1) OF THE CALIFORNIA PENAL CODE INTO LAW AND THE GOVERNATOR WHO ALLOWED IT TO BECOME LAW, I SHALL NOT HONOR ANY FURTHER BIDS FROM THE RESIDENTS OF THE PEOPLES REPUBLIK of KALIFORNIA. THIS SHALL ALSO APPLY TO CURIO & RELICS (03) FIREARMS AND LICENSEES AND INCLUDE ANTIQUE FIREARMS AS WELL. NO EXCEPTIONS WILL BE MADE.

I BELIEVE THAT THESE LAWS VIOLATE BOTH THE COMMERCE AND EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSES OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, AND ARE CLEARLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL. I REFUSE TO BE KALIFORNIKATED BY YOUR SOCIALIST POLITICAL HACKS. DON'T LIKE MY ATTITUDE, THEN GET BUSY RAISIN' H__L WITH THE SOCIALIST BENT POLITICAL TRAITORS WHO HAVE VIOLATED THEIR OATH OF OFFICE TO PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THESE UNITED STATES, AND WHO VOTED FOR THIS UNCONSTITUTIONAL SET OF LAWS. INSIST, AS IS YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES, AND IN THE STRONGEST TERMS, THAT THEY REPEAL THESE ABOMINABLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL STATUTES BEFORE IT BECOMES NECESSARY FOR THE GOOD CITIZENS OF CALIFORNIA TO DO SO BY FORCE OF ARMS. TO DO LESS, CONSTITUTES MORAL COWARDICE IN THE FACE OF SOCIALIST OPPRESSION.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Just shopping around Reply with quote

Awesome!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:30 am    Post subject: Re: Just shopping around Reply with quote

I guess bent or not hes made his point.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:32 am    Post subject: Re: Just shopping around Reply with quote

I've also read somewhere that Beretta Usa got fed up with the ammo and gun laws waiting to be passed that they threatened to stop shipments of ammo and weapons to Kalifornia. They even went so far as to tell the law enforcement agency's to buy ammo and weapons from another manufacturer, I don't know what became of this cuz I haven't heard anything more about it.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Just shopping around Reply with quote

Unless he have unique desirable products, price, service or stock, the buyer would simply go to another seller.
Thus the whole exercise simply gone down as a bad business practice.

Of course I am speaking in the POV of a store owner.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Just shopping around Reply with quote

gelandangan wrote:
Unless he have unique desirable products, price, service or stock, the buyer would simply go to another seller.
Thus the whole exercise simply gone down as a bad business practice.

Of course I am speaking in the POV of a store owner.

Yeah...true Gelan...but if a big multi-national supplier backs off, the rest are gonna look and say, "OK...what is going on?" - "Should we be dealing with this 'buyer' ?" Although they all know what is going on in the industry, there isn't much that gets past them, and they will know if there is something funny going on and why.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Just shopping around Reply with quote

True Vince, in a perfect world the other suppliers gonna be supporting the cause..
but in real life, some supplier going to go, "ahhh.. more business for me"..

Heck, I am sure out of the 1000's of gun suppliers/sellers out there, some would be voting greens, and are anti gun themselves.
Some are only in it for the money..

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Just shopping around Reply with quote

Gelan the Intelligent wrote:
Heck, I am sure out of the 1000's of gun suppliers/sellers out there, some would be voting greens, and are anti gun themselves.
Some are only in it for the money..

Too true Gelan...the all mighty dollar speaks loud.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:18 am    Post subject: Re: Just shopping around Reply with quote

Vince wrote:
Gelan the Intelligent wrote:
Heck, I am sure out of the 1000's of gun suppliers/sellers out there, some would be voting greens, and are anti gun themselves.
Some are only in it for the money..

Too true Gelan...the all mighty dollar speaks loud.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:41 am    Post subject: Re: Just shopping around Reply with quote

I have a relative that has lived out in northern California for 15 years and just last year her and her hubby wanted to build on their property a small gunsmith shop (he has an ffl) since he owns over 300 acres. Paperwork after paperwork filed sent and refiled, they were turned down by california atf for not having a storefront? After endless battles with the local township to get a permit they finally said thats it. They have a prospective buyer for their land and house and will be moving back later this year to her hometown in western ia to open up a ma and pa gunshop.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Just shopping around Reply with quote

ROADJOCKY wrote:
I THINK THAT IS WHY THE WORLD IS IN THE SHAPE IT'S IN (GREED)!!1

Well, some of them aint greed, wish it is just as plainly clear cut, but life is just full of contradiction.

If you got a lot of other depending on you to put food on the table (and funds for your child's college),
often you will do anything to make that happen.

Nevertheless, I wish the seller on gunbroker luck, he is furthering OUR cause,
so we should support him.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Just shopping around Reply with quote

Didn't Ronnie Barrett do much the same thing - refuse to sell his firearms to any CA Law Enforcement agencies or service any of those they already had because of the State ban on .50 cal rifles?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Just shopping around Reply with quote

I can't find anything about Barrett ceaseing to ship/repair any of therir products in California/

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Just shopping around Reply with quote

Open letter from Ronnie Barrett to california.

Letter from Barrett

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:21 am    Post subject: Re: Just shopping around Reply with quote

Crap!!!!!, I have been looking for the last hour and a half for anything that was sent to California from Ron Barrett. Thanks Omni

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