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Reloading Data Suggestion
Discussion regarding the reloading of ammunition and tuning of loads for accuracy
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reloading Data Suggestion Reply with quote

Hi friends been a long time no post (working to much). Was going through some of the load data again to come up with some different loads for the .308. My suggestion is to include the case manufacturer, and case weight due to the fact that there are many new to reloading and will take the data found and load away.... Some of the loads in the .308 catagory were at 107% of case capacity for my cases (federal and Lake city) Remember that we are in charge of a controled explosion we don't want it to become uncontroled.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:41 am    Post subject: Re: Reloading Data Suggestion Reply with quote

Good point, and also reenforces the rule of always starting well below the maximum charge for any cartridge and working up.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Reloading Data Suggestion Reply with quote

I've always found the brass case is one of the biggest contributor to accuracy. Change the case with everyother aspect being the same and your POI and group size will change significantly. Lessons learned don't mix cases.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Reloading Data Suggestion Reply with quote

who said I mixed the cases

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:28 am    Post subject: Re: Reloading Data Suggestion Reply with quote

Savagenut, I should have written my post better. I agree, listing the brass component used in a load is important because ... I also found my .308 Federal cases didn't have as much capacity as other manufactures.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:20 am    Post subject: Re: Reloading Data Suggestion Reply with quote

SingleShotLover wrote:
Good point, and also reenforces the rule of always starting well below the maximum charge for any cartridge and working up.

Excellent point.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Reloading Data Suggestion Reply with quote

No problem there Jim. My federals are on the heavy side 178 and 179 grains... the lake city is also heavy 179/180gr vs some of the winchester brass I got rid of at 155 gr.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Reloading Data Suggestion Reply with quote

Savagenut wrote:
My federals are on the heavy side 178 and 179 grains... .... vs some of the winchester brass I got rid of at 155 gr.

A good example as to why brass is such a critical component. You could load these two manufactuers' cases identically and the group-size and POI results would be so different you would wonder if they were loaded on the same planet. Internal pressures would be significantly higher in the Federal (higher weight = less internal volume).

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Reloading Data Suggestion Reply with quote

Well Guys and Gals I am looking for some good load suggestions for a 300WSM. I am the designated chef for three of my buddies who all have purchased said calibre firearms within the last two months and They all want me to get them set up with some hunting loads. I am thinking of 165-200grain range for the types of game they will be hunting which is all of the ungulates in N America and also both great bears.
My Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:55 am    Post subject: Re: Reloading Data Suggestion Reply with quote

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Check out the huntingnuts reloading db, if you did then you can check out Hodgdon Reloading

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Reloading Data Suggestion Reply with quote

For example... Huntingnut reload data base 308 Winchester.

168gr SMK 46gr 4064 2700fpsmv no COL given

Sierra reloading manual 308 Win.
168gr SMK 43.4gr 4064 2700fpsmv *note 26" barrel 2.800 COL (federal brass)

Savagenuts reload manual (ha ha)
168gr SMK 40.3gr 4064 (93%) 2721fpsmv 24" barrel 2.845 col (20 thou off lands) .420 five shot group 100 yrds

177.9gr case (Federal) 168.2 gr SMK 43.3gr total of 4064 possible 100% charge
46gr as listed 1.7gr overload 100.06% (compressed load)

DANGER Will Robinson DANGER

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Reloading Data Suggestion Reply with quote

Oh yeah, Sierra load DO NOT EXCEED 43.4 gr

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