HuntingNut
HuntingNut
   Login or Register
HomeCommunity ForumsPhoto AlbumsRegister
     
 

User Info

Welcome Anonymous


Membership:
Latest: IPutMoInYoA
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 13131

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 242
BOT: 3
Total: 245
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Your Account
02: Forums
03: Your Account
04: Photo Albums
05: Forums
06: Home
07: Photo Albums
08: Forums
09: Your Account
10: Forums
11: Forums
12: Forums
13: Home
14: Your Account
15: Forums
16: Forums
17: Forums
18: Forums
19: Photo Albums
20: Forums
21: Forums
22: Forums
23: Home
24: Forums
25: Forums
26: Forums
27: Forums
28: Forums
29: Forums
30: Home
31: Forums
32: Home
33: Forums
34: Home
35: Forums
36: Photo Albums
37: Forums
38: Your Account
39: Forums
40: Your Account
41: Home
42: Forums
43: Home
44: Forums
45: Forums
46: Home
47: Forums
48: Forums
49: Home
50: Forums
51: Forums
52: Forums
53: Your Account
54: Forums
55: Forums
56: Your Account
57: Your Account
58: Forums
59: Home
60: Forums
61: Forums
62: Your Account
63: Forums
64: Home
65: Photo Albums
66: Forums
67: Forums
68: Photo Albums
69: Forums
70: Home
71: Forums
72: Forums
73: Forums
74: Home
75: Forums
76: Your Account
77: Photo Albums
78: Your Account
79: Forums
80: Your Account
81: Forums
82: Forums
83: Forums
84: Photo Albums
85: Forums
86: Forums
87: Home
88: Home
89: Forums
90: Home
91: Forums
92: Home
93: Forums
94: Your Account
95: Forums
96: Forums
97: Forums
98: Forums
99: Forums
100: Home
101: Photo Albums
102: Photo Albums
103: Forums
104: Forums
105: Photo Albums
106: Your Account
107: Forums
108: Forums
109: Forums
110: Forums
111: Home
112: Home
113: Forums
114: Home
115: Your Account
116: Your Account
117: Forums
118: Home
119: Home
120: Forums
121: Forums
122: Forums
123: Forums
124: Your Account
125: Forums
126: Forums
127: Forums
128: Your Account
129: Your Account
130: Forums
131: Your Account
132: Your Account
133: Your Account
134: Forums
135: Forums
136: Forums
137: Forums
138: Home
139: Forums
140: Home
141: Your Account
142: Forums
143: Home
144: Your Account
145: Forums
146: Forums
147: Forums
148: Forums
149: Forums
150: Home
151: Forums
152: Home
153: Home
154: Home
155: Forums
156: Home
157: Forums
158: Forums
159: Photo Albums
160: Your Account
161: Forums
162: Forums
163: Forums
164: Home
165: Forums
166: Forums
167: Home
168: Forums
169: Home
170: Forums
171: Home
172: Forums
173: Forums
174: Forums
175: Forums
176: Photo Albums
177: Forums
178: Forums
179: Forums
180: Your Account
181: Forums
182: Your Account
183: Forums
184: Forums
185: Forums
186: Photo Albums
187: Your Account
188: Your Account
189: Home
190: Forums
191: Home
192: Home
193: Forums
194: Forums
195: Home
196: Forums
197: Forums
198: Forums
199: Forums
200: Home
201: Forums
202: Forums
203: Forums
204: Forums
205: Home
206: Home
207: Forums
208: Home
209: Forums
210: Your Account
211: Forums
212: Forums
213: Home
214: Photo Albums
215: Home
216: Forums
217: Home
218: Forums
219: Home
220: Forums
221: Forums
222: Forums
223: Forums
224: Forums
225: Forums
226: Home
227: Forums
228: Home
229: Home
230: Forums
231: Home
232: Photo Albums
233: Your Account
234: Your Account
235: Home
236: Home
237: Forums
238: Forums
239: Your Account
240: Forums
241: Forums
242: Your Account
  BOT:
01: Forums
02: Home
03: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
 

Coppermine Stats
Photo Albums
 Albums: 308
 Pictures: 2452
  · Views: 824587
  · Votes: 1316
  · Comments: 86
 

Crimping shoulder of cases when depriming/resizing
Discussion regarding the reloading of ammunition and tuning of loads for accuracy
Go to page 1, 2  Next
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » Reloading Ammunition

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
spiderdh
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Oct 24, 2008
Posts: 6
Location: Hot Springs, Arkansas

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:51 pm    Post subject: Crimping shoulder of cases when depriming/resizing Reply with quote

.257 Roberts. When depriming/resizing, I'm crimping the case shoulder. What should I do to adjust my die?
Back to top
View user's profile
Gil Martin
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jan 28, 2005
Posts: 1837
Location: Schnecksville, PA

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Crimping shoulder of cases when depriming/resizing Reply with quote

Welcome to the Forum.

Sounds like the die is not adjusted properly. My suggestion would be to follow the instructions for adjusting the die. What you describe is not normal. All the best...
Gil

_________________
Gil
Back to top
View user's profile
Pumpkinslinger
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Sep 22, 2007
Posts: 5002
Location: NC foothills

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Crimping shoulder of cases when depriming/resizing Reply with quote

Now that's a new one! Are these new dies or have you used them before?

Did you clean the inside of the case neck? Maybe add a little lube.

Have you checked the diameter of the expander ball?

_________________
Mike

"I ain't no better than anybody else, and there ain't nobody better than me!" Ma Kettle
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
roklok
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Aug 11, 2005
Posts: 608
Location: Fairbanks, Alaska

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Crimping shoulder of cases when depriming/resizing Reply with quote

What exactly do you mean by "crimping". Can you post a pic? Using too much case lube will dent case shoulders.
Back to top
View user's profile
gelandangan
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 07, 2006
Posts: 6398
Location: Sydney Australia

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Crimping shoulder of cases when depriming/resizing Reply with quote

Welcome back spiderdh

Hope this time you give us some feedback for all the answers you got.

Onto your question,
Ackley Improved cases have shoulders that are more steep than standard cases.
You may have a AI case / chamber, and use a standard die to resize.
That could give the "Crimp" effect to the shoulder.

_________________
A straight line is the shortest distance between two points.
A smile is the shortest distance between two people.

Do - Not try!


gelandangan.weebly.com/
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
1895ss
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 21, 2005
Posts: 2612
Location: Not Here...!!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:05 am    Post subject: Re: Crimping shoulder of cases when depriming/resizing Reply with quote

gelandangan wrote:
Welcome back spiderdh

Hope this time you give us some feedback for all the answers you got.

Onto your question,
Ackley Improved cases have shoulders that are more steep than standard cases.
You may have a AI case / chamber, and use a standard die to resize.
That could give the "Crimp" effect to the shoulder.


gelandangan could be on to something...................... Smile Unless the dies are the right ones but totally set wrong. Shocked
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
spiderdh
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Oct 24, 2008
Posts: 6
Location: Hot Springs, Arkansas

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:42 am    Post subject: Re: Crimping shoulder of cases when depriming/resizing Reply with quote

roklok wrote:
What exactly do you mean by "crimping". Can you post a pic? Using too much case lube will dent case shoulders.

Actually, the case shoulders are "dented".
Back to top
View user's profile
1895ss
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 21, 2005
Posts: 2612
Location: Not Here...!!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:43 am    Post subject: Re: Crimping shoulder of cases when depriming/resizing Reply with quote

spiderdh wrote:
roklok wrote:
What exactly do you mean by "crimping". Can you post a pic? Using too much case lube will dent case shoulders.

Actually, the case shoulders are "dented".

Too much lube on the shoulders is the only thing it can be then.............. Smile try lubing your cases without getting lube on the shoulders cause you really don't need any there.


Last edited by 1895ss on Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:45 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
spiderdh
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Oct 24, 2008
Posts: 6
Location: Hot Springs, Arkansas

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:44 am    Post subject: Re: Crimping shoulder of cases when depriming/resizing Reply with quote

1895ss wrote:
gelandangan wrote:
Welcome back spiderdh

Hope this time you give us some feedback for all the answers you got.

Onto your question,
Ackley Improved cases have shoulders that are more steep than standard cases.
You may have a AI case / chamber, and use a standard die to resize.
That could give the "Crimp" effect to the shoulder.

I apologize for failing to give feedback before. I'm new to this forum. My bad. I'm using WW cases that haven't been reloaded. I think my die is adjusted right. Maybe too much lube?


gelandangan could be on to something...................... Smile Unless the dies are the right ones but totally set wrong. Shocked
Back to top
View user's profile
1895ss
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 21, 2005
Posts: 2612
Location: Not Here...!!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:47 am    Post subject: Re: Crimping shoulder of cases when depriming/resizing Reply with quote

See my above post Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
spiderdh
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Oct 24, 2008
Posts: 6
Location: Hot Springs, Arkansas

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:52 am    Post subject: Re: Crimping shoulder of cases when depriming/resizing Reply with quote

Thanks to all of you. You're info was very helpful. I appreciate your patience with a beginning reloader.
Back to top
View user's profile
1895ss
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 21, 2005
Posts: 2612
Location: Not Here...!!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:33 am    Post subject: Re: Crimping shoulder of cases when depriming/resizing Reply with quote

spiderdh wrote:
Thanks to all of you. You're info was very helpful. I appreciate your patience with a beginning reloader.

Enjoy your new hobby.............. I have for many many years.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Bushmaster
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jun 12, 2005
Posts: 11393
Location: Ava, Missouri

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:40 am    Post subject: Re: Crimping shoulder of cases when depriming/resizing Reply with quote

No problem...Glad to be of help...Oh...Forgot...Got here too late to mention that you may be using too much lube...Clean your dies out and start again...

_________________
I have one nerve left and yer standin' on it...

DEMOCRACY Two wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for lunch...
LIBERTY A well armed sheep contesting the outcome of the vote...
Back to top
View user's profile
MagnumManiac
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Apr 03, 2008
Posts: 9

PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Crimping shoulder of cases when depriming/resizing Reply with quote

spider,
Bushmaster has given you the best advice, if you are using RCBS case lube, wash out your dies with very hot water and an appropriate sized nylon/cotton bore brush/mop. If you're using a spray type lube, brake cleaner or petroleum spirit (Shellite/Lighter fluid) will work well.
You won't need to worry about rusting if the water is hot enough, it will evaporate with the heat of the die, but pulling a clean rag through from the bottom to the top won't hurt.

I normally follow this by lightly oiling the threaded section where the decapping stem screws in, and go back to loading.
I do this after EVERY use of the sizing die, because RCBS case lube is water based it can cause rust after a period of time if left in the die.

You must remember that you only need a very little amount of lube on your cases for it to be effective, too much will always result in dented case shoulders.
Cheers.
MagnumManiac.
Very Happy
Back to top
View user's profile
Vince
Site Admin
Site Admin


Joined: May 25, 2005
Posts: 15718
Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA

PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:58 am    Post subject: Re: Crimping shoulder of cases when depriming/resizing Reply with quote

Hey Spider....when you say the shoulders are dented...in which direction are they dented? Do the dents run vertically (from base to mouth of the case) or horizontally (around the circumference of the case)?

The reason I ask this is because I have had similar problems with 30.30 cases denting vertically in the shoulder and this was caused by poor setting of the die.

A couple of pics would be great as then we can see the dents in question and be in a better position to advise you.

Cheers, Vince

_________________
Cheers, Vince Cheers

Illegitimi non carborundum
(Never let the bastards grind you down)

Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.

"Nulla Si Fa Senza Volonta."
(Without Commitment, Nothing Gets Done)
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address MSN Messenger Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » Reloading Ammunition
Page 1 of 2
All times are GMT - 7 Hours
Go to page 1, 2  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Valid CSS! Valid HTML 4.01!
Click to check if this page is realy HTML 4.01 compliant for speed :)

All logos and trademarks in this site are property of HuntingNut.com.
The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2011 by HuntingNut.com
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy

.: Upgraded to DragonFly 9.2 by *Dizfunkshunal* :.