Spacedone wrote:

im now disabled {ambulance wreck} i can no longer be a predator. i must ambush my game. camo allows me to blend into any background i expect to hunt. camo clothes are not what camoflagie is. the clothes are just a base to allow you to blend better into your area. a properly camoed hunter sitting still will have game/people walk within inches. if you wear jeans and a nuetral shirt BUT shower with unscented soap you are still using camo {the soap} if you grow a beard just for deer/elk season so they dont see your face then your using camo. every good hunter uses camo to some effect if its just using scent free soap or sitting in the brush. a hunter who doesnt use some form of camo will starve.

The American Indian nations Servived for thousands of years useing what nature provided, Not a department store, Thats what I'm getting at, DO WE NEED the camo that is being sold.
Shoot, I personaly hunt from a camo blind ( purchased by the wife for me on Christmas) and was sceptical until my health went down hill as well, then I found the benefits more than out weighed the draw backs.

native americans were tremendous at camo. they used brush. paint, dirt, and even skins of the animals they were hunting as well as other animal skins. a prime example is using cyote skins and crawling up on bison. the bison thought they were yotes. american indans also lived with nature more than modern people can today. american indians would also run game into the ground on foot using dozens of hunters taking turns running the game. { a man can run 100 miles in a day while a horse can only run 40 miles} {this is how indians aquired horses}.

it is a insult to american indians to think we can ever be as good at hunting as they were then and thats with our modern weapons.

you dont like clothes that help hide you from game.

these clothes are called camo but camo is more than just clothes. camo is a way to hunt to hide a person from game in the best manner possible.

camo is/can be:

clothes
paint
dirt
brush
distance off the ground
scent
rocks
treestands{are a form of camo}
grass
pelts
ect ect

If you have "game/people walk within inches" You either are going to give me a heart attack or I'm going to accidently shoot ya...Think of that. And remember all you have to have is a red and black plad coat and you blend in. Most game animals are color blind...But I will be able to see ya...

If you have "game/people walk within inches" you are probably going to give me a heart attack or I'm going to accidently shoot ya...All you need is a red and black plaid coat and you will blend in. The requirement is to break up your siloette (sp). Most game animals are color blind...

Hummm. Unable to delete the first on or the second one. It didn't seem to set the first time, but waited for me to post the second one then......You will not just how much CRS comes in to play in just only 2 minutes...

Oh well...Two simular ideas at the same time...

In this Province the only time you can wear camo while hunting is during the bow and muzzle loader season. During all rifle seasons you must wear a complete outer suit of either white except hat, red, yellow or blaze orange. Your hat can not be white. Even in this suit i've sat, during the rifle season, in the bush next to a tree and/or in brush or even in a pile of pushed up broken trees etc and on several diff occasions been within arms length of deer while they where feeding. My outline was broken up by branches etc and of course I didn't move or hardly even breath but it worked. Camo would certainly make it easier by breaking up your outline. Is it nec, I don't know, likely to get closer consitantly it may.

One of the hunters that I hunted with in Washington (another state you can't wear camo when hunting deer) was in a blaze solid orange suit sitting against a tree hand feeding a doe with his rifle against his inner leg when I came up on him and chided him for not shooting the doe (he had a doe tag). He told me it didn't have big enough teets to shoot. He was looking for a record teet doe. You need camo???No...Just a hand full of apple chips...

thats a stupid deer.


try a missouri wild turkey.

Western Blacktail are not stupid...Just ask the magazine writers if you can find one that will hunt blacktail in the west. Over the years I have only read two writers that would even attempt to hunt and write about them...And one of them got skunked...And Spacedome. Be careful what you say because my wife is selling out here and moving me to Missouri Ozarks as we speak. Horses and all...This particular old gentleman is always doing this stunt with other game animals. He just has a nack...

Myself, I'm not a big believer in the use of camo, especially in states that require you use blaze orange during gun season. In my years in the woods I've had deer, elk, bear, moose, and antelope on the plains, walk by within five yards while I was wearing blaze orange. I tend to think that movement and scent are by far more of a factor than not using camo, in my opinion.--tr

moose2...Ya have my ear....

Yep moose2........... X2

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Spacedone, { a man can run 100 miles in a day while a horse can only run 40 miles} {this is how indians aquired horses}.

Are you kidding, you are not speaking about me cause I wouldn't make it 100 miles...........

I could not run 100 yds, much less 100 miles.

I'm at 20 yards tops.....then i'm on the ground in pain catching my breath

Yeah but, 10ring...You and crackpot are not "super indian"
either...Spacedome. Have you ever heard of the horse race from that side of the Sierras to this side of the Sierras. I can't remember what they call it. but I could find out. It is 100 miles of mountain trail that horses have to complete in 24 hours...Carrying a human to boot.

Run 100 miles in one day? Are you out of your mind? Can you do it? And finally I am not living on the plains in the year of our Lord 1600 and don't have to run 100 miles anymore. I have a pickup and a horse trailer. My horse doesn't have to run a 40 day either...

What does this have to do with camo anyway...