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longwalker Member
Joined: Apr 12, 2005 Posts: 201 Location: Bethel, AK
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 2:48 pm Post subject: am I just lucky |
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Visiting other forums, I find that the guns I have and shoot all fall well short of top of the line products.
Ruger M77mkII poor trigger and don't shoot. ( I guess mine came off the line better than normal )
Ruger Pistols Poor triggers. And hard to reassembly. ( it's not a problem for me )
Savage rifles, I agree they aren't as pretty. Mine shoots very well. (I have yet to have a problem with the "sloppy" bolt).
Mossberg 835 ultra. Again that pretty thing comes up.
Colt Pistol after all the shooting I've done with it I still can't get it to jam.
So my question, Am I just to cheap or what?
longwalker
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515034s10ring Super Member
Joined: Sep 08, 2005 Posts: 1153 Location: Working my way back up and around
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: am I just lucky |
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They are all fine arms.....ummm errr.....They are junk and i'll be the first to offer $50 bucks to take 'em all off your hands
I used to get the very well same reaction. It's just since people have a following, the one manufacturer they don't have or had in their collection they usually always talk bad about for some reason....then the story gets inflated based upon incorrect info.
As i've heard before, believe half of what you read, and nothing of what you heard
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1895ss Super Member
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515034s10ring Super Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:20 pm Post subject: Re: am I just lucky |
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_________________ Why no......I'm really not an outdoorsmsn at all. But i did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night! |
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Vince Site Admin
Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 15715 Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:40 pm Post subject: Re: am I just lucky |
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longwalker wrote: |
Visiting other forums, I find that the guns I have and shoot all fall well short of top of the line products.
Ruger M77mkII poor trigger and don't shoot. ( I guess mine came off the line better than normal )
Ruger Pistols Poor triggers. And hard to reassembly. ( it's not a problem for me )
Savage rifles, I agree they aren't as pretty. Mine shoots very well. (I have yet to have a problem with the "sloppy" bolt).
Mossberg 835 ultra. Again that pretty thing comes up.
Colt Pistol after all the shooting I've done with it I still can't get it to jam.
So my question, Am I just to cheap or what?
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Have a mate that had a Ruger rifle in 45.70. He Liked it and never had any problems with it. Prior to buying my Weatherby I looked at Remington and Ruger. Neither of them "fitted" me and the Ruger was not the prettiest rifle I have seen.
Ruger revolvers are not known for being "user friendly" when you want to tune the action (well in Australia anyway). From my experience a S&W offers better accuracy and a much better trigger "out of the box", although I still had to tune my 586 trigger. My Ruger Mk1 in .22 was a magnificent little pistol and my daughters loved plinking with it, but it had to be the biggest a**hole of a thing to reassemble after pulling it apart for cleaning.
Colt pistols, well autos. What more can you say? I think that pretty well every modern auto, with a couple of exceptions, are in one way or another a copy of this venerable firearm. The sincerest form of flattery is imitation.
Not familiar with your other firearms, although the names Savage and Mossberg are well known for their quality.
So, are you a cheap **s.......probably, just like the rest of us one eyed cheapskates.
Oh yeah, and I think that my old mate Ringo has done you an injustice...$50....that is disgusting....I'lll offer you a more realistic price....$75 aussie Oscar Scholars.
Cheers, Vince
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longwalker Member
Joined: Apr 12, 2005 Posts: 201 Location: Bethel, AK
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:57 am Post subject: Re: am I just lucky |
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Then I find myself in good company.
longwalker
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Spacedone Member
Joined: Nov 04, 2005 Posts: 266 Location: missouri
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:30 am Post subject: Re: am I just lucky |
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firearms are TOOLS
they shouldnt need to win pretty pagents.
it doesnt matter how they look as long as they do the job they are designed to do.
everyone here screams winchester winchester winchester but in my left handed opinion they are about useless for more thsn one shot at a time.
my best gun is a old old belgum made double barrel 12 ga with a wire twist barrel/ its so ugly it scares dead game, it weighs 2.5 tons and has a trigger pull of 572 pounds but if the job is killing birds, it is the correct tool for the job.
it all depends on personal tastes.
personally i find cheap ugly guns kill just as dead as expensive pretty ones.
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Vince Site Admin
Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 15715 Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:36 am Post subject: Re: am I just lucky |
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Spacedone wrote: |
firearms are TOOLS
they shouldnt need to win pretty pagents.
it doesnt matter how they look as long as they do the job they are designed to do.
everyone here screams winchester winchester winchester but in my left handed opinion they are about useless for more thsn one shot at a time.
my best gun is a old old belgum made double barrel 12 ga with a wire twist barrel/ its so ugly it scares dead game, it weighs 2.5 tons and has a trigger pull of 572 pounds but if the job is killing birds, it is the correct tool for the job.
it all depends on personal tastes.
personally i find cheap ugly guns kill just as dead as expensive pretty ones. |
G'Day Spacedone. Hey mate, you only need the one shot with a Winchester. "One shot at a time"........hm, last time I fired more than one shot at a time.....read buckets of bullets at a time..... was when I was in the Army and that was with either an M16, GPMG M60, Bren and .30 or .50 cal MG.
You are correct though.....good lookin' doesn't necessarily equate to good performance. It is however, a real bonus if you have both looks and performance.......just like a good "partner" (the politically correct way of sayin' woman).
That old 12g of yours sounds like a damn fine piece of kit. How is the Damascus barrel standing up? One would imagine that at its age it would be a wall hanger for the sake of safety. One would hate to see something like that ruined or destroyed.
Cheers, Vince
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11391 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:41 am Post subject: Re: am I just lucky |
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Yeah spacedome...I'm curious too...I had a Damascus twist 12 ga double when I was a kid and noticed that the bead on one barrel was a quarter inch off center. Traded it for my "Jackhandle" .30-30. That was a few years back....
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sniper Super Member
Joined: Aug 18, 2005 Posts: 735 Location: Utah
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:38 pm Post subject: Re: am I just lucky |
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[quote="VinceItrigger. My Ruger Mk1 in .22 was a magnificent little pistol and my daughters loved plinking with it, but it had to be the biggest a**hole of a thing to reassemble after pulling it apart for cleaning.
Oh yeah, and I think that my old mate Ringo has done you an injustice...$50....that is disgusting....I'lll offer you a more realistic price....$75 aussie Oscar Scholars.
Cheers, Vince[/quote]
Careful, Vince, on some forums that admission will get you banned for weakness of character, or some such.
Not to mention that I have had similar experiences with my Mark I and II. I LOVE 'em, but they are a Royal PITA to reassemble.
That's why I use gun scrubber nowadays, or genuflect at the feet of the local gun butcher, with my gun extended in my right hand, and $$$ in my left. Works every time! Or has, so far.
Cheapskates! I'LL go $76!
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Vince Site Admin
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