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chambered221 Super Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:37 am Post subject: Re: Ammo Ban pending |
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By all means don't think for one minute this is over !!!
In a Senate Appropriations Committee hearing, ATF Director B. Todd Jones said all types of the 5.56 military-style ammo used by shooters pose a threat to police as more people buy the AR-15-style pistols.
“Any 5.56 round” is “a challenge for officer safety,” he said. Jones asked lawmakers to help in a review of a 1986 bill written to protect police from so-called “cop killer” rounds that largely exempted rifle ammo like the 5.56 because it has been used by target shooters, not criminals.
[Taken from article at Bearing Arms]
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PaulS Super Member
Joined: Feb 18, 2006 Posts: 4330 Location: South-Eastern Washington - the State
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: Ammo Ban pending |
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Any ammunition could be considered dangerous to anyone. That is why we have laws to punish people who use ammunition to injure others without cause. More people are killed by human contact (hitting and kicking) than by rifle ammunition in the grand old USA. I would like to see them outlaw hands and feet......
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dhc4ever Super Member
Joined: May 26, 2011 Posts: 2944 Location: Ipswich, Queensland Australia
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: Ammo Ban pending |
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Paul, stop it.
You are using logic, and we all know that logic wont fit into any anti's argument.
Sounds like you lot are also suffering from the inner city latte sippers having too much say.
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Vince Site Admin
Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 15704 Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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chambered221 Super Member
Joined: Aug 17, 2007 Posts: 3455 Location: Lost for good !!!
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 5:38 pm Post subject: Re: Ammo Ban pending |
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ATF director B.Todd Jones resigned today !!!
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Suzanne Super Member
Joined: Jun 27, 2009 Posts: 3323 Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: Ammo Ban pending |
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Thanks Chambered!
Among his shining achievements was an attempt to give local sherriffs the ability to ban legal (if NFA regulated) firearms in their jurisdictions, as well as proposing a ban on some of the most popular ammunition in the United States. Credited with stabilizing the ATF following the Fast and Furious controversy and that was probably his main objective.
The NRA successfully lobbied to include a provision in the USA Patriot Act reauthorization bill to make the position subject to Senate confirmation.
The Republican Senate will confirm the next guinea-pig...unless of course there's another way (appointed czar or whatever). He didn't last very long, I guess he wasn't stealthy enough.
Suz
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RePete Super Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:39 am Post subject: Re: Ammo Ban pending |
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PaulS Super Member
Joined: Feb 18, 2006 Posts: 4330 Location: South-Eastern Washington - the State
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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: Ammo Ban pending |
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Yep, I got that too. I wonder who is going to do the testing and what will constitute a "handgun". You can get a host of rifle cartridges chambered in a Thompson Center single shot but I don't believe those guns are used by criminals.
The big point I want understood is that there is no way to prevent a crime that doesn't involve doing away with our rights, liberties and freedoms. We have laws to prosecute criminals not to make law abiding citizens into criminals. You need to cause injury of some kind to another before you commit a crime.
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BigBlue Super Member
Joined: Jan 16, 2006 Posts: 1108 Location: Lehigh Township, Pennsylvania
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: Ammo Ban pending |
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Well maybe the ammo ban idea didn't fly, but www.fbo.gov/index?s=op...p;_cview=0 I thought it interesting that they would have bought ,223 instead of 5.56x45.
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inthedark Super Member
Joined: Jan 31, 2011 Posts: 913 Location: Ontario
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:51 am Post subject: Re: Ammo Ban pending |
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The body armour (Pacifac Safety Products) we are issued is threat level NIJ 0101.06 III3A and will defend against penetration of .38, 9mm, .40 pistol bullets and comes is configured with a trauma plate for edged weapons. This company's US division supplys many US LEOs and military clients.
Most any ball rifle bullet will penetrate it. In fact there was an inventor in Australia who made a rim fire .22 or .17 machine gun that just CHEWED through the body armour and also a .5 inch armoured glass sample.
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