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Loke Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: 9MM versas 40MM |
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I carry my Kahr K9 most of the time. At my full-time job concealment is a priority. At my part -time job (at a gun store) I have a .40 S&W most of the time. On weekends I have the SR1911 most of the time. And when I feel like open carry or out in the woods, I have my 44 Mag Vaquero.
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DallanC Site Admin
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:15 pm Post subject: Re: 9MM versas 40MM |
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Loke wrote: |
I carry my Kahr K9 most of the time. At my full-time job concealment is a priority. At my part -time job (at THE BEST gun store) I have a .40 S&W most of the time. On weekends I have the SR1911 most of the time. And when I feel like open carry or out in the woods, I have my 44 Mag Vaquero. |
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Reminds me I need to get over there one of these days.
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PaulS Super Member
Joined: Feb 18, 2006 Posts: 4330 Location: South-Eastern Washington - the State
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: 9MM versas 40MM |
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Aloysius,
I have been talking about a 45/410 derringer that I use as a backup. This is a 45 Colt derringer with a deep chamber for 410 shotshells. I would not fire a 45 Colt out of a 410 shotgun. I might fire a brass 410 case with a 45 bullet from my derringer if I can work out the load. There will be enough space in the case that I might consider some slower powder to get the velocity up without excessive pressure. I am sure that the gun would easily become a grenade with more pressure than the 14000 PSI of a standard load. I can't use a real slow powder because they require pressure to burn properly. At this point it is only an idea and it will stay that way unless I can do it safely. John didn't have any problems with patterns in his 410 or when he used the 410 adapter in his 12 gauge. We both use slugs in our 45/410 derringers because they give the best groups. I am just trying to think of a way to get higher velocities than 600 fps accurately using a 250 grain bullet from my 3" derringer.
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Aloysius Super Member
Joined: Nov 03, 2009 Posts: 2440 Location: B., Belgium
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:57 am Post subject: Re: 9MM versas 40MM |
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Thanks.
But in my opinion: slow powder and short barrel... maybe it produces enough fireworks to blind the opponent till you can get closer...
And recently I started doing some tests with the .410 using brass of a 9,3x74 R. Looks promishing. I will also try .303 Br and 8x77 JRS brass as they seem to fit in the .410 chamber better than a .45 LC round. Now I'm still using black powder, but Trail Boss and H110 are in my mind. I tried to glue a short piece of rope in the bottom of a .38 BP-caliber round ball and a few .355 lead 9 mm bullets to get it stabilized during flight (smooth bore doesn't give twist). So far not so good results. Also thinking of using 2 or 3 of these pure lead .38 caliber round balls. Big chance at least 1 of the 3 will hit the target...
A .410 can give a lot of fun (and it's a real challenge to try for a decent 100 yard group).
as for the thread: you see 9 mm balls don't have to come out of a 9 mm pistol
and when I would be allowed to carry, I don't think my GP Silverchrome would be the first choise. I'd probably take the S&W 586 with 4" barrel and I might consider an FN 1910 or 1920 in 7,65 (or your .32 ACP).
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Vince Site Admin
Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 15714 Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:57 am Post subject: Re: 9MM versas 40MM |
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My mate and I never had any luck using round ball "slugs" in either the 20g or 12g...no accuracy at all. I haven't tried .410 slug through my Gauge Mates chamber inserts for the 12g, but with shot they pattern the same as my mate's .410 shotgun.
Best powder I've found by far for the .410 cartridge is Alliant 410. It's slower than Trail boss by a fair bit, and it falls into the start of the Magnum Pistol powders as far as burn rate goes (#66 on the table below), but it's a great powder.
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Loke Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: 9MM versas 40MM |
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My next carry gun will be a Ruger Vaquero .44 Mag with a 3.75" barrel and bird's bead grip. Sitting on layaway right now.
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Vince Site Admin
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: 9MM versas 40MM |
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_________________ Cheers, Vince
Illegitimi non carborundum
(Never let the bastards grind you down)
Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.
"Nulla Si Fa Senza Volonta."
(Without Commitment, Nothing Gets Done) |
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PaulS Super Member
Joined: Feb 18, 2006 Posts: 4330 Location: South-Eastern Washington - the State
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:05 am Post subject: Re: 9MM versas 40MM |
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I had no idea that Ruger was selling plasma weapons! It appears to be a short range plasma charge but it should do the job if the perp in within ten yards.
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Loke Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: 9MM versas 40MM |
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It should be something like the 40 S&W when loaded with Hornady Critical Defense .44 Specials. But peg the awesome meter. Now to find someone who will build a nice pancake/belt slide style concealment holster for me.
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 5001 Location: NC foothills
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: 9MM versas 40MM |
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Loke, take a look at Mernikle (spelling?) holsters.
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DallanC Site Admin
Joined: Jan 18, 2005 Posts: 3572 Location: Utah
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:02 pm Post subject: Re: 9MM versas 40MM |
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Loke wrote: |
My next carry gun will be a Ruger Vaquero .44 Mag with a 3.75" barrel and bird's bead grip. Sitting on layaway right now. |
Beautiful guns!
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Loke Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: 9MM versas 40MM |
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Did I say that I have a piece of Gaboon ebony that is just big enough for one more set of grips? I've had it for about 25 years, saving it for just the right gun. I might have found the right gun.
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