View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
Gil Martin Super Member
Joined: Jan 28, 2005 Posts: 1837 Location: Schnecksville, PA
|
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 1:59 pm Post subject: Only accurate guns are interesting |
|
I believe it was Elmer Keith who coined the referenced phrase and I certainly agree with him. Every week I get to spend several wonderful days at a great gun club checking members, observing safety conditions and protecting club property. As a bonus, I get to shoot, pick up brass, talk to like-minded folks and read various things. They even pay me to endure all of this.
On a random basis, I take guns out to the range and have often been amazed at how well they shoot. The last few weeks were devoted to sighting in scoped .22 rifles. The Remington Model 582 (tube feed bolt action) and the Winchester Wildcat (magazine fed bolt action) both preferred Winchester ammo over Federal brand. Groups with Federal ammo were good while the Winchester groups at 50 yards were outstanding. Both rifles are going into the autumn woods with me.
This week I took out a pair of U.S. Model of 1917 rifles made by Winchester in WWI. One was sporterized with the original 26-inch barrel and had military sights. It did OK with my reloads. The second rifle was sporterized and the barrel was shortened to 19 inches and wore a 4-power Tasco scope. It shot bullseye groups all day long. It looks very funny with its short barrel, but what a performer. Guess I have to take it out this deer season. All the best...
Gil
_________________ Gil |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Vince Site Admin
Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 15715 Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
Pumpkinslinger Super Member
Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 5002 Location: NC foothills
|
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: Only accurate guns are interesting |
|
Col. Townsend Whelen said that. I'm with you Vince. Of course I've only met a couple of guns that weren't fun to shoot (brutal recoil or really terrible accuracy)
_________________ Mike
"I ain't no better than anybody else, and there ain't nobody better than me!" Ma Kettle |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Elvis Super Member
Joined: Jul 27, 2008 Posts: 9253 Location: south island New Zealand
|
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: Only accurate guns are interesting |
|
yea and nah on that one........my little 7.62x39mm isnt a tack driver by any strecth of the imagination...2-3" at hundy is normal for her...yet it gets the most use of the rifles in my cabinet as its just plain fun to use,the subsonics Im running in it now make my .22lr redundant as they are similar in price to shoot and headshooting a house mutton at 50 yards or less is childsplay with her and they go down like a lead balloon.
my .223 would be the most accurate in cabinet yet gets the least use now as we dont get out after wallabies as much any more.
now the shotguns are by far the worst yet this time of the year get a real hammering1
_________________ You shot it You pluck it !
Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers! |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11393 Location: Ava, Missouri
|
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 8:20 am Post subject: Re: Only accurate guns are interesting |
|
Inaccurate guns are just a challenge. Keeps one on his toes figuring out what the cause is and fixing it.
_________________ I have one nerve left and yer standin' on it...
DEMOCRACY Two wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for lunch...
LIBERTY A well armed sheep contesting the outcome of the vote... |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Pumpkinslinger Super Member
Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 5002 Location: NC foothills
|
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 10:18 am Post subject: Re: Only accurate guns are interesting |
|
Bushy, I had an AMT Lightning .22 rifle for a while. It would shoot groups 0.5" wide at 50 yards. However they were also 6" tall... After many tries, including returning it to the factory, nothing changed. It got traded off. Guess I wasn't up to the challenge!
_________________ Mike
"I ain't no better than anybody else, and there ain't nobody better than me!" Ma Kettle |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Gil Martin Super Member
Joined: Jan 28, 2005 Posts: 1837 Location: Schnecksville, PA
|
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: Only accurate guns are interesting |
|
It depends. I have some older firearms that are wall hangers and are interesting even though they do not get shot. Then there are some military rifles with very dark bores that could never shoot a decent group and I like them for historical reasons. There is a real sense of satisfaction when you are able to get a gun to shoot well. So I agree with you good folks. All the best...
Gil
_________________ Gil |
|
Back to top |
|
|
stovepipe Super Member
Joined: Sep 25, 2008 Posts: 4877 Location: Pine, Az.
|
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:37 pm Post subject: Re: Only accurate guns are interesting |
|
I love my sub-MOA stuff.
I also love the not so sub-MOA stuff.
If I can get Minute-of-CenterMass out of the latter at or near the max range of the load I'm happy!
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
stovepipe Super Member
Joined: Sep 25, 2008 Posts: 4877 Location: Pine, Az.
|
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:38 pm Post subject: Re: Only accurate guns are interesting |
|
Gil Martin wrote: |
This week I took out a pair of U.S. Model of 1917 rifles made by Winchester in WWI. One was sporterized with the original 26-inch barrel and had military sights. It did OK with my reloads. The second rifle was sporterized and the barrel was shortened to 19 inches and wore a 4-power Tasco scope. It shot bullseye groups all day long. It looks very funny with its short barrel, but what a performer. Guess I have to take it out this deer season. All the best...
Gil |
Pics of these two preez!
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
SingleShotLover Super Member
Joined: Dec 26, 2007 Posts: 1005 Location: Illinois
|
Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:05 am Post subject: Re: Only accurate guns are interesting |
|
Yep.
_________________ If you can't hit it with one, you probably can't with two either!
The biggest problem with a closed mind is that it never seems to come with a closed mouth.
SSL |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Azar Member
Joined: Jan 04, 2010 Posts: 275 Location: Utah
|
Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:41 am Post subject: Re: Only accurate guns are interesting |
|
Are there powder burn marks on that target?
Nice shooting! What distance?
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
SingleShotLover Super Member
Joined: Dec 26, 2007 Posts: 1005 Location: Illinois
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11393 Location: Ava, Missouri
|
Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:33 am Post subject: Re: Only accurate guns are interesting |
|
Ya mean like this one. .30-06 Browning and Redfield scope. Range 200 yards.
Description: |
|
Filesize: |
64.86 KB |
Viewed: |
7826 Time(s) |
|
_________________ I have one nerve left and yer standin' on it...
DEMOCRACY Two wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for lunch...
LIBERTY A well armed sheep contesting the outcome of the vote... |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Gil Martin Super Member
Joined: Jan 28, 2005 Posts: 1837 Location: Schnecksville, PA
|
Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:07 pm Post subject: Re: Only accurate guns are interesting |
|
Very nice shooting folks and it confirms my point regarding accurate rifles. All the best...
Gil
_________________ Gil |
|
Back to top |
|
|
stovepipe Super Member
Joined: Sep 25, 2008 Posts: 4877 Location: Pine, Az.
|
Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: Only accurate guns are interesting |
|
Howa 1500 20" bull. 168gr SMK, 41.7 RE15, FGMM case, Fed primer. Crimped, LEE dies, 10x glass, prone. After 4 years off!
300y, 5-shots (frekin' flyer! BTW- a "flyer" is a jerked shot), winds; 75-90* @ 100: 10 w/ gust to 15. 340-10* @ 200: 10-15. InCQ/switch @ 300.
Description: |
|
Filesize: |
304.24 KB |
Viewed: |
7801 Time(s) |
|
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
|