Login or Register
HomeCommunity ForumsPhoto AlbumsRegister

User Info

Welcome Anonymous

Latest: Thanatos25
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 12719

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 106
BOT: 2
Total: 108
Who Is Where:
01: Forums
02: Forums
03: Forums
04: Forums
05: Forums
06: Forums
07: Home
08: Forums
09: Forums
10: Your Account
11: Photo Albums
12: Your Account
13: Home
14: Home
15: Forums
16: Forums
17: Home
18: Forums
19: Home
20: Forums
21: Forums
22: Home
23: News
24: Forums
25: Your Account
26: Your Account
27: Forums
28: Your Account
29: Forums
30: Forums
31: Forums
32: Forums
33: Forums
34: Home
35: Forums
36: Forums
37: Forums
38: Forums
39: Forums
40: Forums
41: Forums
42: Forums
43: Forums
44: Forums
45: Forums
46: Home
47: Forums
48: Forums
49: Forums
50: Forums
51: Forums
52: Forums
53: Forums
54: Forums
55: Forums
56: Home
57: Forums
58: Your Account
59: Forums
60: Your Account
61: Forums
62: Forums
63: Forums
64: Home
65: Home
66: Forums
67: Your Account
68: Forums
69: Home
70: Forums
71: Home
72: Your Account
73: Home
74: Home
75: Forums
76: Home
77: Forums
78: Forums
79: Forums
80: Forums
81: Forums
82: Home
83: Forums
84: Home
85: Home
86: Your Account
87: Forums
88: Forums
89: Forums
90: Forums
91: Forums
92: Forums
93: Forums
94: Forums
95: Forums
96: Forums
97: Forums
98: Forums
99: Home
100: Forums
101: Photo Albums
102: Forums
103: Home
104: Home
105: Your Account
106: Home
01: Forums
02: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!

Coppermine Stats
Photo Albums
 Albums: 305
 Pictures: 2372
  · Views: 553314
  · Votes: 1312
  · Comments: 86

Support our Advertisers

Relaoding Question
Discussion regarding the reloading of ammunition and tuning of loads for accuracy
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » Reloading Ammunition

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Rookie Member
Rookie Member

Joined: May 16, 2005
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:56 pm    Post subject: Relaoding Question Reply with quote

I need your guys help in solving a puzzle for me. I have been reloading for my Win 270 and my wives Browning 243 now for about 3 years. I was getting to the point where I was starting to feel pretty confident in what I was doing and actually thinking that I know what I was doing.

About a week ago my brother asked me to put some 243 shells together for him. After buying all the components I head down to the reloading room and started to gather all the information that I would need to reload his shells. I was doing just fine until I went to measure the OAL for his rifle. So I take and put together the Stone Point OAL gauge, remove the bolt from his gun and proceed to get the OAL measurement. When I removed the gauge the first time I knew that I had to have made a mistake. The Stony Point gauge was showing that the bas of the bullet was right at the mouth of the case. I measured the OAL about a dozen more times with the same results. Still thinking that something must be wrong I used a 2 other bullets (1 Hornady and 1 Nosler) to see if anything would change. The results form these two bullets came back the same as the first.

So my questions here are 1) Does this mean that the throat of the rifle has worn out and my brother should look in to having a new barrel installed? 2) Knowing that it would be unsafe to load the shells to the length that the Stony Point gauge was showing. Could I load them to my reloading manuals specs and still be safe?

Back to top
View user's profile
Super Red Neck Member
Super Red Neck Member

Joined: Jan 26, 2005
Posts: 2954
Location: Maryland

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Relaoding Question Reply with quote

Howdy 400Bull. I think your brothers rifle is fine some just have deep throats. In this case your fine seating to the manual specs or go as deep as the mag will let you, measure the mag and go about 15ths-20ths deeper to asure smooth feeding, just make sure your seated atleast as deep as the diamiter of the bullet (for a hunting load) and you shouldn't have any problems by the way Welcome to huntingnut!!


People Eating Tasty Animals
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery

Joined: Jan 26, 2005
Posts: 735
Location: Mitchell, GA, U.S.A. (2007 pop. 191)

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Reloading Question Reply with quote

Some rifles have long throats and some have excessive erosion like you mentioned. It wouldn't hurt to have a gunsmith with a bore scope to have a look see in the chamber. You might even try a chamber casting and see what the cast looks like.

No problem reloading for it though using SAMMI max over all length or less. You may still get good hunting accuracy out of the rifle. Just have to shoot a series of test loads and see. Will the reloads shoot better than factory? If it's a bummer in the accuracy department it may be time for a trip to the gunsmith for a new barrel.

I said this to someone the other day. Don't reload for anyone other than yourself. Instead, encourage your friends and relatives to start reloading themselves or just buy factory ammo. Remember you need a FFL to reload commercially. That means you can't charge for components or your reloading service. If you just absorb the costs yourself you still have the liability if your rounds cause damage, injury, or death. I know your home owners insurance agent would have a fit if he knew you reloaded for someone else.
Back to top
View user's profile ICQ Number AIM Address MSN Messenger Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Super Member
Super Member

Joined: Jan 28, 2005
Posts: 317

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Relaoding Question Reply with quote

Yeah, we might as well not have SAAMI specs. So few of the manufacturers adhere to them. I have some rounds where the bullet length and the case length are still shorter than my SAAMI OAL. That would leave absolutely no room to hold the bullet in the case. Most of my shooting is from the bench so I don't have to worry about the rounds being too long for the magazine. I just feed them in single shot fashion. I don't know why the manufacturers make these ridiculously long chambers, but I suspect it's the work of one of their lawyers. Best wishes.

Cal - Montreal
Back to top
View user's profile

Joined: Apr 09, 2005
Posts: 389
Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 4:44 am    Post subject: Re: Relaoding Question Reply with quote

Many of the "Over the Counter" rifles have what I would term excessive freebore. I overheard a Remington Rep and a SHOT show in the early 90s say that they were putting longer throats in and telling the customers that it helped equal out the diffrences in factory ammunition. HOGWASH!!! Some of the companies are doing this to provide a bit more of a safety margin. I honestly think this is because of the advent of the various all copper bullets that have become popular, these bullets will raise pressures dramatically. Barnes has even gone to their Triple Shock, the main reason for this is to lower pressures. There is another very outstanding bullet that is also all copper, it is made in South Africa and I have been using them for the past 5 years. I think they are better than the Barnes.

I have spoken with Gerard and also communicated with him via e-mail. He has a lot of very good and informative information on his web site that merits you taking a good look at. I HIGHLY recommend his product, even though the price is a bit high his bullets are worth every penny you spend. Smile Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » Reloading Ammunition
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 7 Hours

Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Valid CSS! Valid HTML 4.01!
Click to check if this page is realy HTML 4.01 compliant for speed :)

All logos and trademarks in this site are property of
The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2011 by
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy

.: Upgraded to DragonFly 9.2 by Dizfunkshunal :.