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300 Win Mag
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:43 pm    Post subject: Re: 300 Win Mag Reply with quote

man I like this place, well as for me no matter which gun of mine I use I want the bullet to stay in da animal that way he takes it all and no tracking. Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:40 pm    Post subject: Re: 300 Win Mag Reply with quote

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man I like this place, well as for me no matter which gun of mine I use I want the bullet to stay in da animal that way he takes it all and no tracking. Smile
That can be hard to do with a .30 of any kind using hunting bullets but it reminds me of a story, I was hunting late in the season a coupe of years back and there was snow on the ground I was freezing and about to call it quits about 10:00 a really nice buck with a real thick neck steps out a little farther then I usually shoot but I have used this particular rifle for everything from target shooting to hunting so I decide to go with it, he looks like he is leaving so I go ahead and shoot at the shot he dropped, when I dressed him he was hit in the spine He must of had more angle then I thought because the 165 hornady went along the spine smashing vertebrae as it went finally coming to rest in the fourth one, so "Long" thats one way to leave them in there but mostly mine are never found.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:21 pm    Post subject: Re: 300 Win Mag Reply with quote

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I want the bullet to stay in da animal that way he takes it all and no tracking.

My concern with a bullet the fragments in the game, like deer, is the amount of meat that can wasted. Then there is a chance of finding lead bits in meat that you did get.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:19 am    Post subject: Re: 300 Win Mag Reply with quote

A properly sized and placed B-Tip will not exit and all damage will be confined inside the ribs or thoracic cavity !!!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:18 pm    Post subject: Re: 300 Win Mag Reply with quote

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A properly sized and placed B-Tip will not exit and all damage will be confined inside the ribs or thoracic cavity !!!

That doesn't sound like a sure thing. The round could be too big for the size deer you shot at or your shot could be off a bit.

Also, I've read reports from other hunters that Nosler B-tips can sometimes not penetrate if they hit the shoulder.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:00 pm    Post subject: Re: 300 Win Mag Reply with quote

And they would be 100% correct.........B-Tips were not designed to be a shoulder busters !!!

Once again it's a situation in which hunters used a particular bullet without any knowledge or regard as to how it should be used. .........then badmouth and complain about how bad they are.

As for a sure thing........I've never lost a deer with a B-Tip.

Properly sized isn't a function of caliber or weight of a bullet (that's why I didn't reference anything in particular) but more of an energy issue.
A equation similar to what Paul and pumpkin was talking about in another thread could be a good tool for this.
IMO they are at their best when used in standard non-magnum calibers, short actions are even better but if you prefer long action stay with the lighter for caliber bullets. Once you get past 250-300 yards where impact velocities have declined is where you'll find a better niche for heavier bullets and magnum cartridges.

B-Tips will expand well under 2,000fps......don't be afraid to use them at those extended ranges........just use them they way they were intended to be used !!!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: 300 Win Mag Reply with quote

I agree btips work but i also have firsthand penetration experience w the .277 130g.'s they work i agree but they are still more penetration then needed for whitetail and they will bust a shoulder. at standard .270 win velocity and @75-100yrds

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: 300 Win Mag Reply with quote

I could bust shoulder with the 165's out of the 06 but I never had one go right down.......always wanted to run about 30 yards first !!!

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