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1895ss Super Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:55 pm Post subject: .30 WCF |
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The grand old .30 wcf was 110 years old in the fall of 2004. What do you think of this old cartridge????
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: .30 WCF |
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Its like the 30-06 .... so old but still really useful and can still do what it did back then 100% today
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Bushmaster Super Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: .30 WCF |
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I have one of those...Yes I do...For short range work in the deep forest it can't be beat. The rifle that it was designed for is light, quick, well ballanced and absolutely dependable besides being of proven design...Of its day and for several years after its conception THE High Powered hunting rifle.
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 6:39 am Post subject: Re: .30 WCF |
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Vince,
The 30 WCF and the 30-30 are one and the same
Dimitri
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1895ss Super Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: .30 WCF |
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Bushmaster Super Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: .30 WCF |
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"38-58 Ballard of 1876 necked down to .30 caliber" Not again...
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1895ss Super Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: .30 WCF |
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Bushmaster Super Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: .30 WCF |
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The .38-55 is seeing a resurgence in Cowboy shooting events. It's not dead yet...(Gotta ask the wifey-poo how to use her photo system so I can post large files...)
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Bushmaster Super Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: .30 WCF |
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U.M.C virtually copied the case specs of the .30 WCF and called it .30-30 due to the fact that it was a .30 calibre and it had 30 grains of smokeless powder under a 160 grain metel patched bullet. and Marin chambered it in their 336 lever gun..It's one of the highest of compliments to be copied. Don't you agree 1895ss??
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1895ss Super Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: .30 WCF |
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Bushmaster wrote: |
U.M.C virtually copied the case specs of the .30 WCF and called it .30-30 due to the fact that it was a .30 calibre and it had 30 grains of smokeless powder under a 160 grain metel patched bullet. and Marin chambered it in their 336 lever gun..It's one of the highest of compliments to be copied. Don't you agree 1895ss?? |
I certainly agree. It's kinda odd that they would both be working on something so similar. The way I understand is that Marlin worked closely with U.M.C. so that the .30 or .30-30 as Marlin called it would work in their new gun, because Marlin didn't manufacture ammo.
The amazing thing is that it is still alive and doing so well after all these years when there certainly are "better" (for lack of a better word) cartridges out there that will out do it hands down. Why..........???????
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roklok Super Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: .30 WCF |
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I believe part of the reason it has done so well over the years is that it was the first sporting rifle cartridge designed from the ground up for smokeless powder(the .30 US Army was loaded with smokeless earlier but was a military cartridge).It is sort of hard to imagine now but in its day it was regarded as a pretty hot,flat shooting number. I think this in combination with the fast handling rifles it was chambered in grabbed hunters attention and never let go.
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