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585 HE -- Cases In Production --
Discussion regarding the reloading of ammunition and tuning of loads for accuracy
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:30 pm    Post subject: Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production -- Reply with quote

I’d say so Mike. Weatherby, as far as I am aware, are the only ones with a radius on the shoulder as opposed to a sharp angle.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production -- Reply with quote

And have got 460 HSM specs setup, the impetus for that is some
asking about one and new great line of 458 bullets CEB now has.

It will hold more powder than the 416 HSM and will get
a 572 gr as fast as 416 HSM gets a 475gr.....Ed.

Yes it has Weatherby radius from sides to shoulder

and from shoulder to neck like regular cases. Burn big

loads of powder better and fireforms easier also..Ed.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:31 pm    Post subject: Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production -- Reply with quote

The guys that did the super accurate 416 HE did another
416 HE that has an 8" longer 42 inch K&P barrel..

Used a Stiller action and same load with 475 gr bullet, as in
first gun and and gained about 200 fps with good accuracy.
3065 fps. Tested 2 groups of 3 and less than 1/2 min moa.

And loads they used are not the highest speed loads
the cartridge is capable of....Here is print with specs for
the 416 HE reamer chamber ....Ed....

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:49 am    Post subject: Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production -- Reply with quote

More about he guys that did the accurate 416 HE, they did a
416 HE that has an 8" longer 42 inch K&P barrel..

Used longer barrel and the same load with 475 gr bullet, as used
in the first gun and and gained about 200 fps with good accuracy,.
3065 fps. Tested 2 groups of 3 and less than 1/2 min moa.

And loads they used are not the highest speed loads
the cartridge is capable of....Here is picture.......Ed....


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:01 pm    Post subject: Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production -- Reply with quote

WOW...the look of that rifle brings to mind the Lahti L39 Anti Tank rifle.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:37 pm    Post subject: Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production -- Reply with quote

Away for a time, sickness..
Here is print with chamber reamer specs for the
416 HSM chamber..There are 3 base sizes we have,
depending on actions used. Got reamers for all 3..
Got cases for all of them..
Our cases are public domain, so that is why I post
info and specs. To help guys do their own setups.
Manson makes reamers I use,,, Ed.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production -- Reply with quote

“hubel585” wrote:
Away for a time, sickness..

Fingers crossed you are feeling well now mate, and that this damn COVID-19 is not in the mix. Stay well, stay safe and keep away from any possible sources of this virus.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:00 am    Post subject: Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production -- Reply with quote

watched a video the other day of guys using a 416 barrett out to 2700 yards.... mind blowing stuff.your anti tank thing is spot on Vince....50BMG is anti vechile ...it wouldnt be out of relms of possibility to take out fighter jets one after the other if got within range of them on ground...$7-10 per round VS howmanymillion per plane really makes sense.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:04 pm    Post subject: Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production -- Reply with quote

Elvis wrote:
watched a video the other day of guys using a 416 barrett out to 2700 yards.... mind blowing stuff.your anti tank thing is spot on Vince....50BMG is anti vechile ...it wouldnt be out of relms of possibility to take out fighter jets one after the other if got within range of them on ground...$7-10 per round VS howmanymillion per plane really makes sense.

The 50BMG is pretty much “Anti Anything“ mate. It already has an impressive record against aircraft, with it being using in fighter aircraft in WWII. As for using it against jets...put one through the side of the engine at a range that would allow for full penetration, and you will stuff up the “works and jerks”. You might not bring it down, but you will take it out of the fight. I loved the .30BMG/.50BMG combo I had in my M113A1 when I was in the Army...a brilliant combination of firepower.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:09 pm    Post subject: Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production -- Reply with quote

Here is reamer print with chamber reamer specs for
the 460 HSM chamber .Couple guys getting set
to do 38-40 inch heavy 458 target barrels...Ed....
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:25 pm    Post subject: Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production -- Reply with quote

With 40 inch barrel 416 HSM ,475 gr, get 3650, over 13,000 ft lbs muzzle energy.
Got guys getting set to have 38-40 inch 458 barrels made for 460 HSM.Ed..
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:52 am    Post subject: Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production -- Reply with quote

More info on this gun, we did it for testing 416 HSM with a rebated rim,
to check in intermediate size actions, with the longer, stronger, bolt lugs, Ed..
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production -- Reply with quote

Here is experimental action for 416 HSM in a heavy
stock....We lengthened port a little, set bolt stop back ,
opened bolt face fit the 416 HSM rebated rim. Ed.

Here is comparison of Montana PH to Pierce action we
modified to use for rebated rim 416 HSM testing..Ed.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:27 am    Post subject: Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production -- Reply with quote

416 & 460 HE AND 416 & 460 HSM .LONG RANGE AND HUNTING
Can be set up in Pierce X10 ACTION for the 416 & 460 HE
AND X20 action for the 416 & 460 HSM , Can get those
if guys need one...Ed
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:04 pm    Post subject: Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production -- Reply with quote

Here is picture of my 416 HSM test gun,... It is a big falling block we had
as a 8 bore years ago. Has a 34 inch , 1 5/8 "diameter, 1 to 10 twist barrel. .. Ed.



www.gunownerstv.com/hsmfb.jpg
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