HuntingNut
HuntingNut
   Login or Register
HomeCommunity ForumsPhoto AlbumsRegister
     
 

User Info

Welcome Anonymous


Membership:
Latest: patrad69
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 13133

People Online:
Members: 2
Visitors: 266
BOT: 1
Total: 269
Who Is Where:
 Members:
01: Dimitri > Forums
02: Vince > Forums
 Visitors:
01: Forums
02: Forums
03: Forums
04: Forums
05: Home
06: Home
07: Home
08: Forums
09: Forums
10: Forums
11: Forums
12: Forums
13: Home
14: Forums
15: Forums
16: Forums
17: Forums
18: Forums
19: Forums
20: Forums
21: News
22: Forums
23: Forums
24: Home
25: Home
26: Forums
27: Your Account
28: Home
29: Forums
30: Forums
31: Forums
32: Forums
33: Forums
34: Forums
35: Forums
36: Forums
37: Reloading Database
38: Forums
39: Home
40: Photo Albums
41: Home
42: Forums
43: Forums
44: Forums
45: Forums
46: Forums
47: Forums
48: Forums
49: Forums
50: Forums
51: Forums
52: Home
53: Forums
54: Forums
55: Forums
56: Forums
57: Forums
58: Forums
59: Forums
60: Home
61: Home
62: Home
63: Home
64: Forums
65: Forums
66: Forums
67: Forums
68: Forums
69: Forums
70: Forums
71: Home
72: Forums
73: Forums
74: Home
75: Forums
76: Forums
77: Forums
78: Forums
79: Forums
80: Forums
81: Forums
82: Forums
83: Forums
84: Forums
85: Photo Albums
86: Forums
87: Forums
88: Forums
89: Forums
90: Forums
91: Forums
92: Forums
93: Forums
94: Home
95: Home
96: Home
97: Forums
98: Forums
99: Forums
100: Your Account
101: Home
102: Forums
103: Forums
104: Home
105: Forums
106: Forums
107: Forums
108: Forums
109: Forums
110: Forums
111: Forums
112: Forums
113: Your Account
114: Forums
115: Forums
116: Forums
117: Forums
118: Forums
119: Forums
120: Reloading Database
121: Forums
122: Forums
123: Forums
124: Home
125: Home
126: Home
127: Home
128: Home
129: Forums
130: Forums
131: Your Account
132: Forums
133: Forums
134: Forums
135: Forums
136: Forums
137: Home
138: Forums
139: Home
140: Forums
141: Forums
142: Forums
143: Home
144: Forums
145: Forums
146: Photo Albums
147: Forums
148: Forums
149: Forums
150: Forums
151: Forums
152: Home
153: Forums
154: Home
155: Your Account
156: Photo Albums
157: Forums
158: Forums
159: Forums
160: Forums
161: Forums
162: Forums
163: Forums
164: Forums
165: Forums
166: Home
167: Home
168: Home
169: Forums
170: Forums
171: Forums
172: Forums
173: Forums
174: Home
175: Forums
176: Forums
177: Forums
178: Home
179: Photo Albums
180: Forums
181: Home
182: Photo Albums
183: Forums
184: Photo Albums
185: Home
186: Forums
187: Your Account
188: Forums
189: Forums
190: Home
191: Home
192: Home
193: Forums
194: Forums
195: Forums
196: Forums
197: Forums
198: Forums
199: Photo Albums
200: Forums
201: Forums
202: Forums
203: Forums
204: Forums
205: Home
206: Forums
207: Forums
208: Home
209: Forums
210: Forums
211: Forums
212: Home
213: Forums
214: Forums
215: Forums
216: Your Account
217: Forums
218: Forums
219: Forums
220: Forums
221: Forums
222: Forums
223: Forums
224: Forums
225: Forums
226: Home
227: Forums
228: Forums
229: Home
230: Forums
231: Forums
232: Forums
233: Home
234: Forums
235: Forums
236: Forums
237: Home
238: Home
239: Home
240: Forums
241: Home
242: Home
243: Home
244: Forums
245: Forums
246: Forums
247: Forums
248: Forums
249: Forums
250: Home
251: Forums
252: Forums
253: Photo Albums
254: Forums
255: Forums
256: Forums
257: Forums
258: Home
259: Forums
260: Photo Albums
261: Forums
262: Your Account
263: Forums
264: Home
265: Forums
266: Home
  BOT:
01: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
 

Coppermine Stats
Photo Albums
 Albums: 308
 Pictures: 2455
  · Views: 824805
  · Votes: 1316
  · Comments: 85
 

Bayonets are daggers in PA
Discussions related to Guns and Firearms

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Gil Martin
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jan 28, 2005
Posts: 1840
Location: Schnecksville, PA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:25 pm    Post subject: Bayonets are daggers in PA Reply with quote

I spotted a sale bulletin that listed Swiss Model 1918 bayonets in very good condition for one half of their previously listed price. These were needed to go with my Schmidt-Rubin 1911 and K31 rifles. So two bayonets were ordered, but I was blocked at checkout. The company will not ship bayonets to Pennsylvania because their legal staff say a bayonet could be construed as a dagger and thus it is not legal to ship same to Keystone State residents. The company would ship hunting knives, folding knives or pen knives.

I spoke to customer service and pointed out that bayonets are sold legally in Pennsylvania at gun shops, gun shows and other retail stores. I offered to get a letter from my county district attorney attesting to the legal status of bayonets. All to no avail. Even a supervisor and manager at the company would not budge. What to do?

Plan B was to ship the bayonets as a gift to my significant other in Delaware. All the best...
Gil

_________________
Gil
Back to top
View user's profile
gelandangan
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 07, 2006
Posts: 6403
Location: Sydney Australia

PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Bayonets are daggers in PA Reply with quote

Strewth..
You guys got the same rule maker as we do ?

_________________
A straight line is the shortest distance between two points.
A smile is the shortest distance between two people.

Do - Not try!


gelandangan.weebly.com/
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Vince
Site Admin
Site Admin


Joined: May 25, 2005
Posts: 15729
Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Bayonets are daggers in PA Reply with quote

That's a bit ordinary Gil. I think you have taken the only really viable option mate and that is to ship them to somebody else for on forwarding to you.

_________________
Cheers, Vince Cheers

Illegitimi non carborundum
(Never let the bastards grind you down)

Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.

"Nulla Si Fa Senza Volonta."
(Without Commitment, Nothing Gets Done)
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address MSN Messenger Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Suzanne
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jun 27, 2009
Posts: 3323
Location: Eugene, Oregon

PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Bayonets are daggers in PA Reply with quote

I think you figured out the best bet and that is to ship to somewhere else, where it can be shipped to you, but better check with the state regs and see if there's some sort of hick-up over shipping bayonets. It could just be their shipper. I had a UPS store recently refuse a guy trying to ship a laser pointer that goes on a pistol. All he had to say was that it goes on a drill press and they'd let him send it. They may deal with only one shipper and they may be of the anti gun ilk, who knows.

I'd like a K31 bayonet... care to share the supplier's name? PM me if you like. No worries if you don't.


Suz

_________________
May the moon keep you centered,
May the sun keep you dancing,
And the stars shed light on your dreams.
Back to top
View user's profile
gelandangan
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 07, 2006
Posts: 6403
Location: Sydney Australia

PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Bayonets are daggers in PA Reply with quote

Ok just googling about the bayonet.
It is true that some (most?) version of K31 bayonet ARE dagger, particularly models after the 1918 issue version.

_________________
A straight line is the shortest distance between two points.
A smile is the shortest distance between two people.

Do - Not try!


gelandangan.weebly.com/
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Vince
Site Admin
Site Admin


Joined: May 25, 2005
Posts: 15729
Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Bayonets are daggers in PA Reply with quote

gelandangan wrote:
Ok just googling about the bayonet.
It is true that some (most?) version of K31 bayonet ARE dagger, particularly models after the 1918 issue version.

I just did the same Gelan, and I do believe you are correct mate. The bayonet is like an oversized Sykes Fairbairn dagger. Gil took the best option which is sending it to someone else, but he may have to collect it in person to get it home.

_________________
Cheers, Vince Cheers

Illegitimi non carborundum
(Never let the bastards grind you down)

Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.

"Nulla Si Fa Senza Volonta."
(Without Commitment, Nothing Gets Done)
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address MSN Messenger Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Vince
Site Admin
Site Admin


Joined: May 25, 2005
Posts: 15729
Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Bayonets are daggers in PA Reply with quote

I know I might be opening a small can of worms here...but in reality there isn't a lot of difference between the K31 bayonet and other bayonets. The main difference I can see is the K31 bayonet is sharpened on both sides, whereas the other bayonets are only sharpened on one...which I suppose technically makes the K31 more like a dagger.



rsz_k31bayo.jpg
 Description:
 Filesize:  50.83 KB
 Viewed:  5462 Time(s)

rsz_k31bayo.jpg


mauser bayonets.jpg
 Description:
 Filesize:  106.45 KB
 Viewed:  5463 Time(s)

mauser bayonets.jpg


_________________
Cheers, Vince Cheers

Illegitimi non carborundum
(Never let the bastards grind you down)

Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.

"Nulla Si Fa Senza Volonta."
(Without Commitment, Nothing Gets Done)
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address MSN Messenger Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Aloysius
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Nov 03, 2009
Posts: 2442
Location: B., Belgium

PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:47 am    Post subject: Re: Bayonets are daggers in PA Reply with quote

What do you use to kill a wounded deer or hog? In Germany they even give such "dagger" a special name...

Is there a restriction for carpenters on the length of their nails they use in Pennsylvania?

It does put some remarks on "the land of the free"...

Bajonets for the K31 are very nice, they are Swiss you know.
I gave my arsenal-new Mauser bajonet to my future son-in-law. One has to do strange things to get the daughters out of the house... but I still have the "sword" that fits a Lee Enfield and the small nice "dagger" that fits the SA-FN. The right education teaches people to dress themselves and their rifles too... what are the women in Pennsylvania allowed to wear? Smile
Back to top
View user's profile
Vince
Site Admin
Site Admin


Joined: May 25, 2005
Posts: 15729
Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA

PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:58 am    Post subject: Re: Bayonets are daggers in PA Reply with quote

Out here Aloys, in Australië mate, we call them Pig Stickers. The blade is very similar to the Sykes Fairbairn dagger. As for deer, I use any knife that is sharp enough and strong enough to cut their throat.

_________________
Cheers, Vince Cheers

Illegitimi non carborundum
(Never let the bastards grind you down)

Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.

"Nulla Si Fa Senza Volonta."
(Without Commitment, Nothing Gets Done)
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address MSN Messenger Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Gil Martin
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jan 28, 2005
Posts: 1840
Location: Schnecksville, PA

PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:54 am    Post subject: Re: Bayonets are daggers in PA Reply with quote

Suzanne,
PM sent. All the best...
Gil

_________________
Gil
Back to top
View user's profile
SingleShotLover
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Dec 26, 2007
Posts: 1005
Location: Illinois

PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:52 am    Post subject: Re: Bayonets are daggers in PA Reply with quote

I used to admire Pennsylvania's common sense, but your current Attorney General is a lunatic. Now I can't renew my PA non-resident by mail as before, and my non-resident Utah permit isn't recognized at all. Not surprised that he can't tell the difference between a "dagger" and a bayonet. Good luck.

_________________
If you can't hit it with one, you probably can't with two either!

The biggest problem with a closed mind is that it never seems to come with a closed mouth.

SSL
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Suzanne
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jun 27, 2009
Posts: 3323
Location: Eugene, Oregon

PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:03 am    Post subject: Re: Bayonets are daggers in PA Reply with quote

Got it, Thanks Gil!

Suz

_________________
May the moon keep you centered,
May the sun keep you dancing,
And the stars shed light on your dreams.
Back to top
View user's profile
chambered221
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Aug 17, 2007
Posts: 3455
Location: Lost for good !!!

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Bayonets are daggers in PA Reply with quote

SingleShotLover wrote:
Now I can't renew my PA non-resident by mail as before

Thus due to a change that now requires photo and electronic signature into their system !!!

_________________
Ask as many people needed, sooner or later your question will be answered the way you want it answered !!!

A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.
~George Washington
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » Gun & Firearm Discussions
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 7 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Valid CSS! Valid HTML 4.01!
Click to check if this page is realy HTML 4.01 compliant for speed :)

All logos and trademarks in this site are property of HuntingNut.com.
The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2011 by HuntingNut.com
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy

.: Upgraded to DragonFly 9.2 by *Dizfunkshunal* :.