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English Mike
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Joined: Jan 08, 2007
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Location: Whitehaven, Cumbria, UK

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:38 pm Post subject: Finally sorted some land

After chasing elusive deer stalking opportunities for the past year, me & a mate called in on someone we know over the border in Scotland this afternoon with the idea of booking a couple of deer stalking session with him.
Bear in mind that the UK's mostly pretty crowded & a good deal is $130-200 a day for deer stalking, plus a carcase fee.
What we came away with was an agreement where we get to shoot over 3 separate areas of forestry totalling more than 4,000 acres which are solid with roe & sitka, with some red's thrown in too. Minimum take's 10 deer a year, with the opportunity for many more as the population is WAY too high & needs managed more effectively.
All for less than $1,300 a year & no more than 90 minutes from home.
I'm well happy.
here's the largest block:

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slimjim
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Joined: May 16, 2009
Posts: 8314
Location: Fort Worth TX

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: Finally sorted some land
English Mike, what a find!!! They do not come any better than that! Wishing you great success. _________________ "To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." - Theodore Roosevelt "The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

Elvis
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Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 9256
Location: south island New Zealand

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:33 am Post subject: Re: Finally sorted some land
great stuff....your freezer will be looking healthy in no time. _________________ You shot it You pluck it ! Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers!

Vince
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Joined: May 25, 2005
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Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:27 am Post subject: Re: Finally sorted some land
Mate, you scored well there. That's a lot of money, but when you consider everything it's actually very cheap...maximum of $130 a beastie. _________________ Cheers, Vince Illegitimi non carborundum (Never let the bastards grind you down) Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God. "Nulla Si Fa Senza Volonta." (Without Commitment, Nothing Gets Done)

Bushmaster
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Joined: Jun 12, 2005
Posts: 11393
Location: Ava, Missouri

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:01 am Post subject: Re: Finally sorted some land
You are allowed to shot the "King's" deer? Wow...Times have changed. _________________ I have one nerve left and yer standin' on it... DEMOCRACY Two wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for lunch... LIBERTY A well armed sheep contesting the outcome of the vote...

Pumpkinslinger
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Joined: Sep 22, 2007
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Location: NC foothills

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: Finally sorted some land
I was talking to someone today about a nearby hunting lease. Apparently the going rate is between $10 and $13 per acre. _________________ Mike "I ain't no better than anybody else, and there ain't nobody better than me!" Ma Kettle

slimjim
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Location: Fort Worth TX

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:53 am Post subject: Re: Finally sorted some land

The rates in North TX depend on how close you are to the metroplex. Pkslinger, that rate is 1/2 to a 1/4 or more what we pay.

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slimjim
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Location: Fort Worth TX

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:55 am Post subject: Re: Finally sorted some land

I should also say that there is very little public land to hunt in TX so that drives prices. You basically have to have a private lease to hunt.

English Mike
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Joined: Jan 08, 2007
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Location: Whitehaven, Cumbria, UK

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: Finally sorted some land

Pumpkinslinger wrote:

I was talking to someone today about a nearby hunting lease. Apparently the going rate is between $10 and $13 per acre.

Flippin' 'eck! Here was me wondering if what I'm paying was excessive.

I omitted that I don't have exclusive access & there are 4 more share this but it looks like they don't use it much, if at all (UK firearms laws can bring this kind of thing about).

Turns out the second area is directly south of the one in the photo, so it's pretty much a 6 mile by 1.3 mile block.
Going to head up there on Sunday or Monday for a scouting session, with the intent of getting in a couple of days hunting before Christmas.

slimjim
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Joined: May 16, 2009
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Location: Fort Worth TX

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Finally sorted some land
Keep us posted, English Mike. Wishing you Hunter's Success and a Merry Christmas! _________________ "To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." - Theodore Roosevelt "The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

slimjim
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Location: Fort Worth TX

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:30 am Post subject: Re: Finally sorted some land

English Mike, its been a month. Have you been to the property? Does it look as good close up as it does in the sat images? Any success?

English Mike
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Joined: Jan 08, 2007
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Location: Whitehaven, Cumbria, UK

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:58 pm Post subject: Re: Finally sorted some land

I must be losing it - could have sworn I made a post after Monday's trip up.

Me & a mate went up early on Monday morning & arrived just before first sparrow's fart - 87 miles & 90 minutes, not bad for the UK & probably due to the holidays
Had a good look round & found several places that just screamed "deer here!"
no surprises that there were hides tucked away on all of them, though invariably falling to pieces, so I'll make new ones over the summer.
Saw five deer in total; two pairs of roe does & a single sika. None would have been a good shot & in any case, we deliberately left the rifles at home to concentrate on spying out the lay of the land.
There's been a good deal of clear felling & plenty of replanting over the past three or four years, with active logging operations certainly in the past 6 months.
Ended up walking 9½miles & ascending 2,200' which is the biggest workout I've had in the last 8 or so years.

Oh bollox, bloody photo's have come out in reverse order - start with the last & work back up... Scratch

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Bushmaster
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Joined: Jun 12, 2005
Posts: 11393
Location: Ava, Missouri

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: Finally sorted some land
Hide = Deer stand or blind. And there's those nasty ugly wind generators. A scar on the landscape. _________________ I have one nerve left and yer standin' on it... DEMOCRACY Two wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for lunch... LIBERTY A well armed sheep contesting the outcome of the vote...

Vince
Site Admin

Joined: May 25, 2005
Posts: 15718
Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:05 am Post subject: Re: Finally sorted some land

Mike, that piece of land looks outstanding mate...you done good, or as we say...you been kissed on the "male appendage" by a fairy.

If nothing else mate, spending a couple of days in that scrub will be good for the constitution...very relaxing.

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Cheers, Vince Cheers

Illegitimi non carborundum
(Never let the bastards grind you down)

Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.

"Nulla Si Fa Senza Volonta."
(Without Commitment, Nothing Gets Done)

English Mike
Super Member

Joined: Jan 08, 2007
Posts: 1709
Location: Whitehaven, Cumbria, UK

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: Finally sorted some land

Bushmaster wrote:

Hide = Deer stand or blind.

And there's those nasty ugly wind generators. A scar on the landscape.

Yep.

I've got used to the things & with the amount of wind we get, they do actually work (though the offshore ones are way better & less intrusive).

One advantage is the swishing sound of the blades helps mask small noises when trying to get in range for a shot - works great with the bunnies on a local farm that has its own wind generator.

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