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mc223 Member
Joined: Apr 02, 2006 Posts: 115 Location: S/E Kansas
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 11:06 pm Post subject: Clean, Dry Chamber |
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So I Clean my barrel and the chamber and them I put a very small amount of lubricant on a patch and run it down the barrel. then I lubricate the bolt ETC. I run a dry patch down the barrel to remove the excess.
But there is still some of the initial lube left in the chamber.
The point: Case thrust
Is there really that big of an issue with cleaning case lube off my reloads?
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PaulS Super Member
Joined: Feb 18, 2006 Posts: 4330 Location: South-Eastern Washington - the State
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 12:33 am Post subject: Re: Clean, Dry Chamber |
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Always use a bore guide that fits your chamber closely! There is no reason to lubricate your chamber. Clean the barrel from the breach to the muzzle with solvent, remove the bore guide to clean the chamber with an oversize bore brush or a chamber brush and solvent. Dry the chamber and replace the bore guide. Always run the patches from the chamber to the muzzle and never backwards (from the muzzle to the chamber). Run dry patches from the chamber to the muzzle until the barrel is clean and dry. Remove the bore guide and clean it. Clean any solvent from the chamber and reinstall the bore guide. If you must oil the barrel then use a wad wrapped around a smaller than normal bore brush and insert it from the chamber end pushed out to the muzzle with the muzzle pointed down. Follow it with a dry patch. remove the bore guide. Your gun is clean, the bore is protected with a light coating of gun oil and your chamber is dry. Be sure to store the gun in a level or bore down attitude. run a clean dry patch through right before you use the gun. You can use a light gun oil in the chamber if you are careful to remove the oil before you shoot.
Errors that are common:
Too much oil is used in bore - it should appear slightly wet but no oil should be visible on a patch run through the bore. The bolt can be lubed with a patch with a couple of drops of oil on it - no need to drip oil all over the bolt - it wastes oil and collects dust that will wear the action out. All oiled parts should be "shiny" but dry. a wad wiped over the oiled parts will come away clean and dry. ONLY USE GUN OIL!
A good gun oil regardless of cost is 50% Dextron ATF and 50% Kerosine. This is as good a gun oil as there is. It is chemically non-reactive and will clean and lubricate parts without leaving a heavy film that runs into places it should not be. It will keep moisture from the metal so long as there is a film on the metal and will penetrate metal parts that are porous. It will not damage blueing, and will add depth to most non-plastic finishes. With prolonged contact it can damage plastic and urethane finishes so keep it off your stock unless you have an oil finish.
This gun oil will help remove the sticky thick and wax case lubes from your sized cases. Wipe them with an oiled cloth (not soaked just a few drops on a cloth) and then with a dry soft cloth and then paper towels. Paper will remove almost all the oil on metal parts - never use paper towels to wipe down your gun or any machined metal finish - always use cloth.
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mc223 Member
Joined: Apr 02, 2006 Posts: 115 Location: S/E Kansas
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 1:13 am Post subject: Re: Clean, Dry Chamber |
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Thanks PaulS, just playing the devils advocate to point out the importance of proper cleaning of firearms and ammunition.
Keep it up
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11395 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 6:52 am Post subject: Re: Clean, Dry Chamber |
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Oh darn...And I've been doing it all wrong all the 50 years....
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Deleted_User_2665 Super Member
Joined: May 06, 2006 Posts: 380
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: Clean, Dry Chamber |
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After shooting...after cleaning....making ready for storage...I'd rather go with a chamber containing a lite coat of oil...ya know to fend off rust........
'Course it gets wiped out with alcohol or carb cleaner prior to shooting again.........
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11395 Location: Ava, Missouri
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gelandangan Super Member
Joined: May 07, 2006 Posts: 6401 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: Clean, Dry Chamber |
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And... no WD40 right?
he he he couldn't help myself.
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Deleted_User_2665 Super Member
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: Clean, Dry Chamber |
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In light of what Bushmaster has wrote....and I agree whole heartedly with him by the way.......I have a 25-06 Ruger #1 that hasn't had the bore cleaned since before deer season.....it's not technically being stored at this time as it gets shot quite regularly.....The bore is slick smooth and fends off fouling pretty well but there probably is a bit in there and I really should scrub it out....
Bushy's comments on overdoing the cleaning and overdoing the purchase of cleaning "stuff" gives me the oportunity to clean this rifle and prove once and for all that my method and my chosen cleaning "stuff" is the best...........which I have stated eleswhere on this site<grins>
I will clean this rifle tomorrow....take pictures and time the process....just to show how good and how fast Hoppe's Elite bore cleaner is at getting the copper out of a bore......look for it on the copper solvent thread.
I hate to keep this cheap/easy/fast secret all to myself......<laughin' here>
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11395 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: Clean, Dry Chamber |
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You are absolutely correct. Gelandangan...
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Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 15725 Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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mc223 Member
Joined: Apr 02, 2006 Posts: 115 Location: S/E Kansas
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 10:26 pm Post subject: Re: Clean, Dry Chamber |
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Like Bushmaster, I'd Rather be shootin than cleanin. A couple of quick sprays and a patch or two, and i'm back at the range.
Did turn out to be another interesting thread.
More?
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shootist Member
Joined: Dec 30, 2005 Posts: 73 Location: Lackawaxen,PA
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Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:39 am Post subject: Re: Clean, Dry Chamber |
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Hi mc223.....the best treatment of chambers,case expansion and bolt thrust effects can be found at VARMINT AL'S (www.varmintal.com).
Skip to the summary.....
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temmi Rookie Member
Joined: Jun 16, 2006 Posts: 12
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:21 am Post subject: Re: Clean, Dry Chamber |
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Oil in the chamber will not compress… This means in effect a smaller chamber. It will affect both pressure and accuracy. I always “dry†the chamber with a Clean tight Mop &Patches.
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