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Vince Site Admin
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:20 pm Post subject: Buck found dead in Southern MI |
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Received this in an email from a mate in Long Island...thought it might interest other Nutters.
WOW! Michigan monster
Buck found dead in Southern MI, near Clinton in the area of M-52
Buck was found dead by a lady while walking her dog.
Called friend to come and get it out of there before it would start stinking she did not even notice whether it was a buck or doe. Just wanted it away from her yard.
Friend shows up and is blown away (obviously). Friend does the right thing and calls other people and police officer to obtain the proper tag to possess a picked up deer.
Cause of death is unknown, carcass was tore up pretty bad by animals.
Apparently it had been there a while. However, it was only a short distance from the closest road.
This guy obviously knew what he had and took it to the Sheets brothers of Saline, one of them is a CBM scorer. Gross green scores are 253"-258", that will make this the new state record for Michigan.
Boone and Crockett does recognize picked up deer as records (see Missouri record/all time record).
The most amazing measurement I've heard so far is 29 1/2" inside spread!
That is one butt ugly buck...but a very decent set of antlers.
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hunterjoe21 Super Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:28 pm Post subject: Re: Buck found dead in Southern MI |
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He was a great deer, something I'd settle for seeing in the wild. I'd consider that trophy enough...
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hunterjoe21 Super Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:50 pm Post subject: Re: Buck found dead in Southern MI |
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I'd like to think he went peacefully, but in Mother Nature's world deer hafta fight to the end to avoid bein' something else's food.
From what I've read on aged deer, they seem to succumb to some sort of cancer quite often. Tooth wear seems to play a big part in the demise of many older deer too.
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(I have no idea how to "age" a buck from his antlers), |
If'n you ever figure it out, you better pack up and move to the States, 'cause you'll make a fortune over here as a guide...
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glockman55 Super Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:41 am Post subject: Re: Buck found dead in Southern MI |
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Nice Buck...More Deer die of old age than you know..
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chambered221 Super Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:51 am Post subject: Re: Buck found dead in Southern MI |
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I'm thinking that deer didn't die from old age !!!
As deer grow old they come to a point that antler growth and muscle tone start to diminish.
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:56 am Post subject: Re: Buck found dead in Southern MI |
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the young, sick and old feed the predators. That is a natural death for deer.
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vint2 Super Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: Buck found dead in Southern MI |
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From the rack I would say it was hit by a car and went as far as it could before it collapsed and died, or shot and not recovered, possibly.
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glockman55 Super Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: Buck found dead in Southern MI |
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PaulS wrote: |
the young, sick and old feed the predators. That is a natural death for deer. |
What happens when clueless biologist introduce Wolves back into the State and the Deer heard drops tremendously and I hear the same thing, natural death for Deer,
I say BS, I like em better frying up in some butter on top of my stove.,
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hunterjoe21 Super Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: Buck found dead in Southern MI |
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vint2 wrote: |
From the rack I would say it was hit by a car and went as far as it could before it collapsed and died, or shot and not recovered, possibly. |
What about the rack tells you it was hit by a car???
That's like lookin' at a tire track and declaring it was made by a Chevy...
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vint2 Super Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: Buck found dead in Southern MI |
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IMHO The rack tells me that this was obviosly a mature buck in prime condition or close to it. The rack doesn't show heavy deterioration or decline from age. The buck was found not far from a road so I would suspicion a road kill. You can call your tire tracks anyway you want, I'm looking at antlers.
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hunterjoe21 Super Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:04 pm Post subject: Re: Buck found dead in Southern MI |
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I wanna make sure I understand...
Since he was found close to a road with a fully developed non-typical rack it means that predators, disease, weather conditions, food availibilty, genetics, etc. can be ruled out as a COD???
Again, we're all speculating, but to declare that a vehicle killed him based on the information given is a "reach" at best...
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hunterjoe21 Super Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:10 pm Post subject: Re: Buck found dead in Southern MI |
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Very true...
I hope a good taxidermist gets 'hold of that skull and does him proud...
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