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BigBlue Super Member
Joined: Jan 16, 2006 Posts: 1108 Location: Lehigh Township, Pennsylvania
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:41 pm Post subject: Obama Spoke On Gun Control Measures Today |
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He talks about common sense gun control measures he can take as President without legislation.
abcnews.go.com/Politic...d=18213068
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slimjim Super Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 8314 Location: Fort Worth TX
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: Obama Spoke On Gun Control Measures Today |
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Oh, I feel so much better, NOT!
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Suzanne Super Member
Joined: Jun 27, 2009 Posts: 3323 Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:14 pm Post subject: Re: Obama Spoke On Gun Control Measures Today |
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"Those who oppose any common-sense gun control or gun-safety measures have a pretty effective way of ginning up fear on the part of gun owners that, somehow, the federal government's about to take all your guns away," Obama said.
Really?? That's who's ginning up fear? Did he have a talk with Biden or not? Has he been watching the national news media lately? Has he listened to the radio talk shows at all? Jeeeezz some how you think the federal government is going to take all your guns away (wonder how that happened)? When did that idea cross your mind? He's going to end up selling pencils on the street corner some day and I'm gonna come by and soak him with a squirt gun (every...... freekin........ day).
No, we can have our guns, just have to jump through hoops, qualify and get de-loused, tell the entire neighborhood what you have, feel ashamed as if it's a sin, pay out the wazoo for bar-coded ammo and hide like a sexual predator, live in underground communities of like-minded Americans and turn in all your family members if you sell one. Freedom at it's pinnacle is long gone.
I'm sure what he comes up with isn't going to be so bad. It's not going to have any effect on violence, but that's beside the point. Yes beside the point. Violence in society is always going to be with us and will be unaffected by what he comes up with concerning guns. You know that. I know that. The real point is to establish a tiny step towards more and more control. If he doesn't do much it's because he's afraid of what might happen if he really does what he wants to do. He really wanted to jamb it down our throats, blitzkrieg style (like Obamacare) but he had second thoughts about it. Too many opposing forces for him to survive. I guess we thought we were going to be told on Tuesday and now it's gone into sometime other time this week....
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PaulS Super Member
Joined: Feb 18, 2006 Posts: 4330 Location: South-Eastern Washington - the State
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:25 pm Post subject: Re: Obama Spoke On Gun Control Measures Today |
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I sure am glad that he supports the second amendment. Just think what would happen if he didn't!!!!
Well, his presidential orders won't accomplish anything because they can only be used to put existing laws into play. He can't lawfully overstep the Bill of Rights and he can't use "ex-post Facto" or "bills of Attainder" to confiscate guns already owned. Ex-post facto is a law that is passed to make things that were legal illegal and turn those who acted legally into criminals. (Unconstitutional) the Bills of Attainder are laws that punish a person or a group for the crimes of others without a trial. He may try but he is gonna get his royal a$$ kicked when he does.
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PaulS Super Member
Joined: Feb 18, 2006 Posts: 4330 Location: South-Eastern Washington - the State
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:54 am Post subject: Re: Obama Spoke On Gun Control Measures Today |
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As I understand it - and I haven't checked this out but There is a way to get him out without an impeachment that must be done through the senate. Its more than a vote of no confidence but it takes a two thirds majority of voters. In today's world that would be impossible.
I am hoping that he steps over the legal bounds and the senate has no choice but to impeach him. Then we can go after him through the legal system for whatever felonies will stick. We could also take civil action for civil rights violations but it requires an impeachment first.
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