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Elvis Super Member


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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: 7MM JDJ |
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nice...very nice indeed.
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gemihur Member


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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:25 am Post subject: Re: 7MM JDJ |
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Thank ya', thank ya' very much
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gemihur Member


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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: 7MM JDJ |
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This thread really got off course, man!
The 7mm JDJ was originally designed for the contender using the 225 Win case as it's parent, then Encore shooters wanted more and SSK put out the
7mm JDJ #2 which uses the 307 Win as it's donor case.
I just got a contender barrel rechambered to the latter and it will be loaded only to the tolerances my contender will withstand.
I'll keep ya'll updated as field trials disclose it's capabilities
Thanks,
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Vince Site Admin


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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: 7MM JDJ |
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That is one sweet Contender gemihur…in fact it brings a tear to my eye.
I had a 10” BBL TC Contender in 30.30 Win, but when they made life very difficult for pistol shooters to maintain a licence I handed my licence and all three of my pistols into the Police. That was over 15 years ago, and I still miss shooting that pistol.  It had Pachmyar furniture front and rear, but I no doubt would have made something fancy for it from a well figured Aussie hardwood had I retained it rather than give it up.
The Contender is a very accurate platform for whatever discipline floats your boat…IHMSA, hunting or just plinking. I would happily have one today, with various calibre barrels, for hunting if 1. We were allowed to hunt with a pistol, and 2. The licensing criteria wasn’t so ridiculously difficult. Calibre…I must admit, I’m a sucker for the 30.30 Win, but I do rather like some of the more traditional calibres rather than a wildcat.
As an aside…I’ll finish by saying: Rest In Peace Deer Sniper (David), you are greatly missed by your lovely wife Brenda and all on The Nut. It was fantastic visiting and meeting both you and Brenda. It is something that will stay with me for a lifetime.
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gemihur Member


Joined: Mar 04, 2014 Posts: 55 Location: Ridgelines of the Blue Ridge Mtns
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2023 7:45 am Post subject: Re: 7MM JDJ |
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It's actually an Encore, but thank you!
Looking to load for a new acquisition, a 7mm Super Bower, aka 7mm JDJ #2
or 7X307AI. Yikes! Really needing some dies for 7-08 Ackley Improved.
Here's some of my motivation:
www.retro.co.za/gundex...curacy.pdf
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gemihur Member


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Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: 7MM JDJ |
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Again, the resurrection of an old and relevant thread.
This time I'm on to one of the all-time classic chambers made renowned by no less than the great shooter, Don Bower. It goes by many names but all essentially the same dimensions, just like the Whisper and the Blackout. 7mm JDJ #2 or 7mm SUPER Bower. I'm still in search of a 7-08 Ackley 40* body die, if anyone can help.
Shown here with a custom buttstock that I carved from some curly flamed maple.
I know all the concerns of pressures and breechthrust seem to be thrown out the window with this one,
But evidently P. O. Ackley really was on to something when he figured out that by changing the shape of the brass to not only hold more propellant but to grip the chamber walls upon ignition and actually defeat the tendency of the brass to move rearward thus greatly eliminating breechthrust energy.
The very idea of using a rimmed version of the 308 Winchester parent case and necking it to .284” in a contender would on it’s face value seem absurd, but the nearly parallel walls of the case seem to allow it’s use. One must still be mindful of type of powders used and their volume.
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Vince Site Admin


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gemihur Member


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Posted: Fri May 19, 2023 7:30 am Post subject: Re: 7MM JDJ |
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The .284" bullets I use and their respective parent case
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gemihur Member


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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:44 am Post subject: Re: 7MM JDJ |
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Dies FOUND
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Misser Rookie Member


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Posted: Sat May 03, 2025 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: 7MM JDJ |
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I would like a rimmed 708 .I have a 708 encore that if I could i'd like to have it made to fit a rimmed brass. but who to send it to ?
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Vince Site Admin


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Elvis Super Member


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Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 4:23 am Post subject: Re: 7MM JDJ |
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Rimmed 7mm/08 is piece of cake to do and using 307 brass necked down using your existing 7/08 dies and your away laughing. Gunsmith it only cutting rim in chamber and possibly altering extractor a little.
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gemihur Member


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Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 9:59 am Post subject: Re: 7MM JDJ |
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Handloading would be a mandate anyway, as this is a contender, not an encore!
Break-actions prefer the rim
The Ackley influence to the 7-08 dimensions allows the use of starting loads in the contender to meet it's tolerance limits
I actually use 444 marlin brass as the countersink for the rim was cut to accommodate
Thanks for chiming in, tho
Ya'll have got to notice the difference in the case design of the two cartridges on the right in the photo! Ackley, man, Ackley!
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 1:54 pm Post subject: Re: 7MM JDJ |
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