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tlo7mm Super Member


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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:27 pm Post subject: 20 gauge round of choice |
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So I was curious for those of you that hunt turkey what would be a good round of choice for a 20 gauge round for hunting turley, It is for my daughter.
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slimjim Super Member


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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: 20 gauge round of choice |
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How old and big is your daughter? Is she accomplished at using the shotgun?
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tlo7mm Super Member


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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: 20 gauge round of choice |
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She has never shot a shotgun and I planned on taking her out before april to get some practice in. She is 9 and about 70 lbs. I would set her up with a .410 but we are not legal to hunt turkey here with anything smaller then a 20 gauge. I am thinking of just getting her a .410 and letting her hunt grouse, quail and pheasent rather then turkey.
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slimjim Super Member


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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: 20 gauge round of choice |
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If you could pick-up a .410 cheap, let her learn on that then sell/trade for a larger bore.
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:43 pm Post subject: Re: 20 gauge round of choice |
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check out waterfowl sawn off another one.
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:22 am Post subject: Re: 20 gauge round of choice |
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My wife has a Remington 1100 LT-20 that will only accept 2 3/4" shells. I struggled to find a factory "turkey" load for it. Everyone makes a 3" 20 ga. "turkey" load, bot not 2 3/4". I found a couple boxes of Winchester Super X "Super Pheasant" (1 ounce copper plated #5's @ 1300 fps) that patterned great from her gun, and without much recoil (the gun being a gas operated semi-auto helps with recoil too).
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Crackshot Super Member


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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:13 pm Post subject: Re: 20 gauge round of choice |
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I think the 3.5" loads are a waste of money. I have killed 2 nice toms with my 12 gauge double barrel black powder shot gun with 60gr FF BP and 1.5oz #5 shot.
I love the 20 gauge, though I dont have a BP in that gauge any more.
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chambered221 Super Member


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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: 20 gauge round of choice |
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I second that crackshot !!!
We did some limited testing when they first became all the rage.......wasn't impressed.
I ended up going the opposite way and reduced to a 1 3/4oz load and got a better pattern than the 2 oz loads.
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Aloysius Super Member


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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:06 am Post subject: Re: 20 gauge round of choice |
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the shorter the shotcolumn, the tighter pattern. (less pellets disformed by touching the wall of your barrel)
You can also decrease the speed (= the powder) to get a tighter pattern. A gass-operated semi-auto also decreases the speed...
Further: you can do many things with different wads, or you can fill the openings between the shotpellets with f.e. (baking) flour (NOT the self-rising  )
but everything starts with a nice round hard pellet. Check the shotpellets first. When they are dented, start with other shot! Don't be surprised when you cannot find nice round, hard shot in the bigger sizes.
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:12 am Post subject: Re: 20 gauge round of choice |
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Aloys wrote: |
...or you can fill the openings between the shot pellets with f.e. (baking) flour (NOT the self-rising) |
I've seen this before Aloys...what does filling the space with flour achieve mate? Does it keep the shot apart to save denting it?
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Aloysius Super Member


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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:20 am Post subject: Re: 20 gauge round of choice |
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Yep. The trick to get a dense pattern on longer distance is to start with a round pellet and keep it nice and round. That's why a hard pellet, a short pelletcolumn, suitable wad (=sealing, protecting and outside the barrel: leaving without disturbing), flour (vibrated between the pellets) and all the things that help to keep that pellet without dents are a big help.
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:12 am Post subject: Re: 20 gauge round of choice |
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Have you ever seen what Hevi-Shot looks like ???
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tlo7mm Super Member


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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: 20 gauge round of choice |
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I know I do not need a turkey load as I have killed turkeys in the past with a BB gun actually. Funny thing is I was not trying to kill any I was just trying to mess with the turkeys. Anyway I was just curious if anyone had any good suggestions. I have killed lots of birds with target loads 7 1/5 shot or 8 shot. I figure I will use 6 shot this spring for turkey.
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