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shrpshtrjoe Super Red Neck Member
Joined: Jan 26, 2005 Posts: 2965 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:50 am Post subject: TURNING NECKS |
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Howdy. Was wanting input on neck turning. Does a uniform wall thickness make a noticable difference in the performance of the load.
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calsibley Super Member
Joined: Jan 28, 2005 Posts: 317
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:39 am Post subject: Re: TURNING NECKS |
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Hello Joe,
I tried turning my necks for awhile and didn't notice any difference in my group sizes. My understanding is that it's not that useful for cases used in factory chambers. Benchrest or custom chambers are a different story. They are tights as well as precise. Chambers in factory rifles tend to be oversized and sloppy. You can post this question at www.benchrest.com
and they can give you all the particulars.
Where in Maryland are you? I formerly lived in Hyattsville and Landover Hills some years ago. Best wishes.
Cal - Montreal
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shrpshtrjoe Super Red Neck Member
Joined: Jan 26, 2005 Posts: 2965 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:39 am Post subject: Re: TURNING NECKS |
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Howdy. thanx for the input cal. I have never turned my necks ( i trim them ) and was curious. I live in cecil Co. The north east corner of the state near the pa and del line. Its not a bad area close to the bays for fishing there is plenty of deer here and i go to western md for turkey
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RugerNo3 Rookie Member
Joined: Mar 01, 2005 Posts: 17
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 3:22 am Post subject: Re: TURNING NECKS |
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Neck turning MAY be necesary if you are forming brass from another case such as making 243win form 308brass and especially if it is military brass. Other then that it is usually superfluous for factory chambers.
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5-shot Rookie Member
Joined: Mar 04, 2005 Posts: 1
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:24 am Post subject: Re: TURNING NECKS |
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Neck turning is one of those things that may make a tenth of an inch or so of improvement. Not much improvement in a 1.25 inch group but really noticeable in a 0.25 inch one.
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Bill C.
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Blaine Member
Joined: Feb 24, 2005 Posts: 260 Location: Maine
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: TURNING NECKS |
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I am very "persnickity" when it comes to handloading. I am maybe a bit fanatical, but I do everything that might help my loads be identical, particularly when I'm working up loads. I figure that if the case necks are uniform, it can't hurt accuacy, and it might actually help it. I've never loaded any cases without checking the neck and turning as required, so I don't have anything to compare to. But I love working with my reloading equipment, so I don't mind "going the extra mile" even if it only matters a little in the end product. Just my 2 penny's worth
Blaine
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Joined: Apr 09, 2005 Posts: 389 Location: North Carolina
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Blaine Member
Joined: Feb 24, 2005 Posts: 260 Location: Maine
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:31 pm Post subject: Re: TURNING NECKS |
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The reason I neck turn my cases the first time I load is two fold: 1) When I prepare my cases, I want all the outside dimensions to be identical so that when I weigh the cases to "batch" them I know that any difference in weight is in the wall thickness of the case, and therefore in the case capacity. The amount I take off the neck wall might be very slight, but I batch my cases to the closest .3 grs when possible, and I feel better knowing that I have the closest to uniform I can humanly get. 2) I feel that when the pressure builds behind that bullet during firing, the more uniform the "grip" the neck has on the bullet, the straighter the bullet's release will be.
I realize that neck sizing is not for everyone. Some of us don't mind taking the extra time to "dote" over our loads. It may not even improve performance of the round, but I get satisfaction in the process of hand loading and enjoy "tinkering".
With regard to the sizing dies, I use a collect style Lee neck sizing die in the final step of my case prep to "finalize" the neck sizing. These dies size the neck to .001" less than nominal ( example: .242 for a .243 bullet) and actually help to center the neck axially. Incidentally, I believe that if the neck is sized uniformly, the die can better align the neck to the case axis.
The main reason bench rest shooters neck size is that the throats of their guns have a much tighter tolerances than commercial guns and they actually need to turn the necks so that the rounds will chamber. Although neck fit, is not an issue with most of us, I will continue to turn the necks of all my cases when used for the first time......All the best..........Blaine
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