HuntingNut
HuntingNut
   Login or Register
HomeCommunity ForumsPhoto AlbumsRegister
     
 

User Info

Welcome Anonymous


Membership:
Latest: patrad69
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 1
Overall: 13133

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 110
BOT: 1
Total: 111
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Home
03: Forums
04: Photo Albums
05: Forums
06: Photo Albums
07: Photo Albums
08: Forums
09: Photo Albums
10: Forums
11: Forums
12: Forums
13: Forums
14: Forums
15: State F&G Agencies
16: Forums
17: Your Account
18: Forums
19: News
20: Forums
21: Home
22: Forums
23: Forums
24: Forums
25: Forums
26: Forums
27: Forums
28: Photo Albums
29: Forums
30: Forums
31: Forums
32: Home
33: Forums
34: Photo Albums
35: Forums
36: Forums
37: Home
38: Photo Albums
39: Forums
40: Forums
41: Forums
42: Forums
43: Forums
44: Home
45: Forums
46: Forums
47: Forums
48: Forums
49: Forums
50: Home
51: Forums
52: Home
53: Forums
54: Photo Albums
55: Forums
56: Forums
57: Home
58: Forums
59: Home
60: Forums
61: Forums
62: Home
63: Forums
64: Forums
65: Forums
66: Forums
67: Forums
68: Forums
69: Forums
70: Forums
71: Forums
72: Forums
73: Forums
74: Forums
75: Forums
76: Home
77: Home
78: Your Account
79: Home
80: Forums
81: Forums
82: Forums
83: Forums
84: Home
85: Forums
86: Photo Albums
87: Forums
88: Forums
89: Forums
90: Forums
91: Home
92: Photo Albums
93: Home
94: Forums
95: Home
96: Forums
97: Home
98: Your Account
99: Forums
100: Home
101: Home
102: Home
103: Forums
104: Forums
105: Forums
106: Home
107: Forums
108: Home
109: State F&G Agencies
110: Forums
  BOT:
01: Privacy Policy

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
 

Coppermine Stats
Photo Albums
 Albums: 308
 Pictures: 2452
  · Views: 824963
  · Votes: 1316
  · Comments: 86
 

Bullet sizing lube?
Discussion regarding the reloading of ammunition and tuning of loads for accuracy
Go to page 1, 2  Next
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » Reloading Ammunition

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Pumpkinslinger
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Sep 22, 2007
Posts: 5002
Location: NC foothills

PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:46 am    Post subject: Bullet sizing lube? Reply with quote

I've got a question about lube for sizing lead bullets. I only need to do about 100 and may never need to do it again, so I'm trying to keep the cost down. I picked up the Lee Classic Bullet Sizing kit. They recommend using liquid Alox, which I don't have. The lube is ONLY for the sizing, not for the shooting, as the projectiles will be in a sabot. Has anyone tried something else that worked well? Thanks for any help!

_________________
Mike

"I ain't no better than anybody else, and there ain't nobody better than me!" Ma Kettle
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Aloysius
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Nov 03, 2009
Posts: 2440
Location: B., Belgium

PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:36 am    Post subject: Re: Bullet sizing lube? Reply with quote

When it's not for shooting, I think you can use any lube. I might use tefflon-grease and degrease the bullets after sizing. Lee's liquid Alox is easy to use and not to expensive. But when you don't want or cannot buy it, I used to make my own grease with beewax, vaseline, a bit of motoroil and graphitpowder.
But as stated before: when you only need it for sizing, use anything you have or like and degrease afterwards (washing with soapy hot water might be enough)
Back to top
View user's profile
gelandangan
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 07, 2006
Posts: 6401
Location: Sydney Australia

PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Bullet sizing lube? Reply with quote

I have used a lot of different lubes for this purpose, from White Lithium grease to WD40 - whatever I have handy at the time.
They all seem to work Ok if the size difference is not too large - circa 0.002 - 3 or so.

_________________
A straight line is the shortest distance between two points.
A smile is the shortest distance between two people.

Do - Not try!


gelandangan.weebly.com/
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Vince
Site Admin
Site Admin


Joined: May 25, 2005
Posts: 15725
Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA

PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Bullet sizing lube? Reply with quote

I’ve sized literally thousands of cast projectiles, from lead to linotype, and have never used a lube for sizing. I have an RCBS Lube Sizer that squeezes lube into the lube band when sizing, but that doesn’t happen until the very end of the stroke meaning the bullet is sized/swaged dry. Personally, I don’t believe cast lead bullets need lube to be sized because lead is soft enough to swage without use of lube.

The only time I use liquid ALOX is when I am putting cast projectiles through the LEE Push Through die prior to loading them. I apply LEE Liquid ALOX prior to sizing and fitting of a gas check, but only for convenience.

_________________
Cheers, Vince Cheers

Illegitimi non carborundum
(Never let the bastards grind you down)

Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.

"Nulla Si Fa Senza Volonta."
(Without Commitment, Nothing Gets Done)
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address MSN Messenger Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Pumpkinslinger
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Sep 22, 2007
Posts: 5002
Location: NC foothills

PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Bullet sizing lube? Reply with quote

Thanks folks! Useful answers! I asked this on a couple of Facebook reloading pages and got to much nonsense that I just blocked commenting.

_________________
Mike

"I ain't no better than anybody else, and there ain't nobody better than me!" Ma Kettle
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Bushmaster
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jun 12, 2005
Posts: 11395
Location: Ava, Missouri

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:40 am    Post subject: Re: Bullet sizing lube? Reply with quote

I just bet you have some lube that you use to resize rifle cases...Or...I like Vince's method.

_________________
I have one nerve left and yer standin' on it...

DEMOCRACY Two wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for lunch...
LIBERTY A well armed sheep contesting the outcome of the vote...
Back to top
View user's profile
Elvis
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 9261
Location: south island New Zealand

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Bullet sizing lube? Reply with quote

wd40 is basically kerosene..... any lube is better than no lube...heck some of us use Vaseline for resizing cases...

_________________
You shot it You pluck it !
Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers!
Back to top
View user's profile
Bushmaster
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jun 12, 2005
Posts: 11395
Location: Ava, Missouri

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 10:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Bullet sizing lube? Reply with quote

And I use lanolin for resizing brass. Must come from "Down Under".

_________________
I have one nerve left and yer standin' on it...

DEMOCRACY Two wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for lunch...
LIBERTY A well armed sheep contesting the outcome of the vote...
Back to top
View user's profile
Pumpkinslinger
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Sep 22, 2007
Posts: 5002
Location: NC foothills

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: Bullet sizing lube? Reply with quote

Lee does say to use lube to avoid leading. Case lube it is!

_________________
Mike

"I ain't no better than anybody else, and there ain't nobody better than me!" Ma Kettle
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Vince
Site Admin
Site Admin


Joined: May 25, 2005
Posts: 15725
Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 4:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Bullet sizing lube? Reply with quote

Okaaay…I’m getting a tad confused here. Scratch Are we talking about:

1. sizing/swaging cast bullets in preparation for applying bullet lube then handloading…
2. applying lube to a sized/swaged cast bullet for handloading…
3. or, lubing cases for resizing after firing and preparing for reloading?

If it’s #1, I don’t lube cast bullets for sizing/swaging…it’s not needed.

If it’s #2, then lube (my own homemade lube, a mixture of beeswax and ATF) is applied by my Lube Sizer at the end of the stroke of the sizing action. If I choose to either put the bullets through the LEE Push Through sizing die or not to size the bullet, depending on cast quality and size, I use LEE ALOX prior to fitting a gascheck. Either method has lube applied in order to control/decrease leading in the barrel when the bullet is fired.

If it’s #3, I use Imperial Sizing Wax to size cases…best lube I’ve ever used.

“Punkin” wrote:
Lee does say to use lube to avoid leading. Case lube it is!

If I read your post correctly mate, it appears you are considering using case lube as a lube to prevent bore leading from cast bullets. Scratch wtf Shocked
I strongly counsel against this as case lube is not designed to handle the heat or pressures of firing a bullet. I’d be extremely surprised if it didn’t “burn away” almost instantly on firing or not provide the necessary lubrication to control/stop bore leading (which is the most likely scenario).

_________________
Cheers, Vince Cheers

Illegitimi non carborundum
(Never let the bastards grind you down)

Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.

"Nulla Si Fa Senza Volonta."
(Without Commitment, Nothing Gets Done)
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address MSN Messenger Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Elvis
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 9261
Location: south island New Zealand

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Bullet sizing lube? Reply with quote

I read it that he is squishing oversized projectiles down to skinnier diamentions to fit inside a sabot.... so lube in bore is irrelevant..... lube is purely to assist in the squishing.....

_________________
You shot it You pluck it !
Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers!
Back to top
View user's profile
Vince
Site Admin
Site Admin


Joined: May 25, 2005
Posts: 15725
Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Bullet sizing lube? Reply with quote

Elvis wrote:
I read it that he is squishing oversized projectiles down to skinnier diamentions to fit inside a sabot.... so lube in bore is irrelevant..... lube is purely to assist in the squishing.....

Cast bullets do not require lube to “assist in the squishing” or swaging process mate…assuming of course you are not trying to swage a .38 bullet down to a .22 bullet, and even then I think you would be able to do it without lube, but it would be a God awful looooong bullet when done. Confused wtf Razz Laughing

_________________
Cheers, Vince Cheers

Illegitimi non carborundum
(Never let the bastards grind you down)

Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.

"Nulla Si Fa Senza Volonta."
(Without Commitment, Nothing Gets Done)
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address MSN Messenger Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Elvis
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 9261
Location: south island New Zealand

PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 12:44 am    Post subject: Re: Bullet sizing lube? Reply with quote

Ive seen the aftermath of a .308 jacketed projectile being swagged down to .277 at velocity!!!!!!! didnt see the projectile afterwards but yes it would be rather elongated ....

_________________
You shot it You pluck it !
Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers!
Back to top
View user's profile
Vince
Site Admin
Site Admin


Joined: May 25, 2005
Posts: 15725
Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA

PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 1:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Bullet sizing lube? Reply with quote

Elvis wrote:
Ive seen the aftermath of a .308 jacketed projectile being swagged down to .277 at velocity!!!!!!! didnt see the projectile afterwards but yes it would be rather elongated ....

OOOOh…that conjures up a really scary mental pic mate. Confused wtf Shocked Shocked
Did the rifle survive? I hope no one was injured.

_________________
Cheers, Vince Cheers

Illegitimi non carborundum
(Never let the bastards grind you down)

Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.

"Nulla Si Fa Senza Volonta."
(Without Commitment, Nothing Gets Done)
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address MSN Messenger Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
SingleShotLover
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Dec 26, 2007
Posts: 1005
Location: Illinois

PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 2:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Bullet sizing lube? Reply with quote

I think we are making way too much of this. I am assuming Pumpkinslinger is using the correct sizing die for the mold he is using to merely true the bullet for size, or even size down a couple of thousandths, not to resize some grossly over-sized bullet to a smaller caliber. Plain old case lube would work just fine to assist the ease of this with a decent press and without needing the additional mechanical advantage of most lube/sizing presses.

_________________
If you can't hit it with one, you probably can't with two either!

The biggest problem with a closed mind is that it never seems to come with a closed mouth.

SSL
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » Reloading Ammunition
Page 1 of 2
All times are GMT - 7 Hours
Go to page 1, 2  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Valid CSS! Valid HTML 4.01!
Click to check if this page is realy HTML 4.01 compliant for speed :)

All logos and trademarks in this site are property of HuntingNut.com.
The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2011 by HuntingNut.com
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy

.: Upgraded to DragonFly 9.2 by *Dizfunkshunal* :.