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gelandangan Super Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:58 pm Post subject: Re: Attack Dogs Disguise Kit |
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Dimitri wrote: |
Bushmaster,
I've past car lots with fences and gaurd dogs in there that barked at everything, and they were alittle annoying so I started feeding over time of beef jerky made them stop barking at me & act friendly. Never went across the fence though, but it does make be instant friends with other dogs I've done it on.
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Dimitri,
I have seen dogs that are trained NOT to take food from strangers.
A good example of this is seeing dogs for blind folks, those dogs are trained from pups to be fed ONLY by a few trusted people.
Also, I have seen some guard dogs back in Jakarta that were trained to ATTACK if anyone but their keepers try to feed them.
Only those guard dogs that were kept for show or to play in the movies that will be friend with you when you feed them.
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: Attack Dogs Disguise Kit |
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Gelan,
Guess we have less trained Gaurd dogs around here cause I never heard of that kind of training.
Dimitri
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hunterjoe21 Super Member
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject: Re: Attack Dogs Disguise Kit |
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Wow Joe, a dog thats willing to strave itself.
Well I just finished up ordering some outdoor gear, included is a first aid pouch to put together a slightly better first aid kit then I normally carry while hunting. Hope I don't need to use it in a dog attack.
Dimitri
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Vince Site Admin
Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 15725 Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: Attack Dogs Disguise Kit |
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Gelan is totally correct "Mitri. You will find that most trained Guard Dogs will not take food from anybody except their handler, and this is also usually true in the case of any dog trained for Police or similar para-military type work.
I remember years ago when I was doing security work in Sydney; I had to shoot a German Shepherd guard dog (in the rear of a plant nursery) that no-one could get near or feed....its owner/handler had passed away. I didn't like doing it, but he was a one man dog and it was unfortunately necessary.
I would be extremely careful trusting any dog that has spent the better part of its life behind a chain wire fence. They are usually interest in only one thing....chewin' on ya body!!
I don't think though that there is a need to carry dog bite specific first aid bits and pieces....a dog bite is a very rare thing so long as you are careful.
Cheers, Vince
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hunterjoe21 Super Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: Attack Dogs Disguise Kit |
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When a dog gets to a guard status, she wont trust anyone but her handler....
Ours took only 4 yrs (unheard of as I'm told), but she's the most loyal and lovable pup anyone could want....
dammit...
I gotta figure out how to post pics...
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Bushmaster Super Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:24 am Post subject: Re: Attack Dogs Disguise Kit |
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Well at least you may have a clean puppy...Don't know how clean the pond is...
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vint2 Super Member
Joined: Nov 18, 2005 Posts: 1216 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:07 pm Post subject: Re: Attack Dogs Disguise Kit |
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Hey, Vince, just a note to let you know that I found a cheek piece and it is working quite nicely. Got it from Midway USA, and as you put it, it is good kit!! Thankee for the good advice!!
Also should note that there is a lot good advice going out about guard dogs. A good one will try to attack you right through the glass in a squad car!!!!!!!
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: Attack Dogs Disguise Kit |
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Vince wrote: |
I don't think though that there is a need to carry dog bite specific first aid bits and pieces....a dog bite is a very rare thing so long as you are careful. |
Not dog specific, just you know a few nessesities will be going into the kit (this kit might change depending on the new information I'm getting from a experienced medic on another web forum:
* Bandages
* Alcohol Pads
* Small bottle of Betadine (Povidine Iodine)
* Compression Roll (like for sprains)
* Gauze
* Quick-Clot
* Durmabond
* Military 6" Entry/Exit Field Dressing (Or Israeli Dressing)
* CAT Torquet
* Small ziplock bag with medications (Aspirin, Tylenol, Zantac 75, and Gravel)
* CPR Mask
I would include Antivenin for the Massasauga Rattler (the only posionus snake I got to worry about here), but I don't think I'd be able to get my hands on it.
Dimitri
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: Attack Dogs Disguise Kit |
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hunterjoe21 wrote: |
I gotta figure out how to post pics... |
Check out my website:
www.stormpages.com/dimitrios2/PBT/
PS sorry about all the ads, my website is hosted on a free webhosting service and the ads got bigger a little while ago taking up more room then my pages do.
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Vince Site Admin
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: Attack Dogs Disguise Kit |
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Vince,
I carry a small sewing kit of a couple of needles and a roll of medium/thinker thread. The Durmabond is to close up wounds like liquid stitches.
By the way I just added eye patches to the list.
As for the drugs I put in freash recent store bought pills in the kit the first camping trip of the year and I simply discard the old stock, all the drugs I buy I make sure have atleast a year before expiry so this method works for me.
Dimitri
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gelandangan Super Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject: Re: Attack Dogs Disguise Kit |
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I heard somewhere that cyanoacrylate (superglue) were used to "stitch wound.
would it be a better method than needle and thread?
also, would an epipen for anaphylaxis reaction to toxins or allergens be useful in the kit?
Gelan
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