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I came across this picture of 4 12g shotguns. All rather interesting looking guns...rather curious about the bottom one though...most unusual.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:13 am Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture |
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A bit more to add of the last shotgun...
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| Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:11 am Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture |
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I'd say it's a Hopkins and Allen falling block or something in that realm. Looks like a Winchester 1885 low wall too. HHhmmmm...
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| Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:33 am Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture |
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Hmmmmmmm is right. The hammer is high and the forestock pinned. Are you sure it is a 12 guage and not a smoothbore rifle? I looked through my antique firearms book and found some old British elephant guns that looked simliar but they had recurves/spurs on the trigger guard for opening.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture |
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I'd say that's not a pin but a cross bolt and it looks to be Swiss or German. They used cross bolts that had metal washers around them shaped in such a way as to not be able to spin (like a teardrop or in this case sort of a chevron). That's a tough one, I can't find any shotguns that look like that. Trigger guard, forestock....could be a converted falling block. Forestocks for shotguns seem to usually (on antiques) be shaped into a Schnabel or a wedge blending into the barrel, not rounded like this one, that's why I think it could be a converted rifle. I can't find anything like it.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:26 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture |
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Hmm a Chicopee style action shotgun.
Pretty rare indeed.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:45 am Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture |
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Marlin
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Boito or CBC
definitely drop block but indeed unusual.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:28 am Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture |
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its pinned like the black powder guns
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| Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:48 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture |
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Here's how it's attached, not a pin but a cross bolt. If you blow up the photos, especially the first one, you can see the same escutcheon design as in this photo. It has two little wings and a screw head.
The pinned barrel has an elongated escutcheon
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| Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:59 am Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture |
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YUP
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| Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:41 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture |
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Ok Vinnie what is it?
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| Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:27 am Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture |
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A couple more pics to tantalise you...
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| Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:35 am Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture |
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AS I suspected a gun !!!!
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| Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting Picture |
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Comblain? (the jpg title) It's totally weird, quite old, I wouldn't know the name anyway. Looked for the MC proof mark.....nuthin...
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