YOUR RIGHTS

Pumpkinslinger · Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: YOUR RIGHTS

Vince, that was the reason given in the news. It appears that neither of the men killed, or their families, had any criminal record.

www.cbsnews.com/news/m...armed-man/

abcnews.go.com/US/wire...g-69587748

Vince · Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: YOUR RIGHTS

Pumpkinslinger wrote:

Vince, that was the reason given in the news. It appears that neither of the men killed, or their families, had any criminal record.

www.cbsnews.com/news/m...armed-man/

abcnews.go.com/US/wire...g-69587748

Expect a lot more of these type of instances under the auspices of Red Flag complaints. Police receive vexatious complaints on a regular basis, complaints that they are obliged to investigate. It’s u fortunate and very wrong that the individual has little or no recourse to take action against the complainant. But this is all moot if the individual has been killed by Police. The family should have the right to face, and sue, the complainant, the Police Officer that fired and killed the individual and the County for the death of the individual that was the subject of the complaint if it’s shown to be vexatious. But of course this will never be allowed.

PaulS · Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: YOUR RIGHTS

Everybody makes mistakes...
The man in the first report picked his gun back up after putting it down. A shot was dicharged in a struggle over control of the gun. I would have returned fire too, but then I would never make a good cop. I would shoot jay walkers and bicyclists who ran stop signs. (both those acts just bug me. So I'm not a cop)

In the second report there is a conflict in information. The police claim a confrontation and the people in the home claim he was asleep. The cops were outside the home when they fired into the home hitting him and his wife. She was wounded and he was killed. This sounds bad no matter how it went down.
Not making any judgments yet because I don't have all the facts and I don't trust the news accounts.

Vince · Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: YOUR RIGHTS

Yep, I’m with you mate...I wasn’t there so won’t comment. I always take News reports with a grain of salt...journalists never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

PaulS · Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: YOUR RIGHTS

My biggest concern is that they were taking his property without a trial. That is unlawful and it should never be enforced.
If someone is truly a danger to themselves or others they can be taken to trial and submitted for a psychiatric exam to determine if they are a threat. If they are then they can be judged as such and lose their guns while they are in treatment.
Taking guns away from a crazy person and leaving them on the street only takes the guns out of the future. It will not stop suicide or him from stabbing his mistress to death. The red flag laws don't help the ones who need it and punishes the ones who don't.

Bushmaster · Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: YOUR RIGHTS

Paul said it...I need not repeat it.

Loke · Member Joined: May 13, 2013 Posts: 207

Last night our county health dept made it a class B misdemeanor to gather in groups of ten or more.

This morning our governor shot that down.

Maybe there is still a tiny bit of common sense?

I'm not holding my breath.